A Harry Potter thread to pass the time - Page 3

Gemini Cricket · 05-23-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Rowling has said that when a character dies they are dead. She doesn't want to confuse children who could think that a loved one who died may come back.

Right. So they could both survive... right?

Sirius is dead. (Sadly.) She said he wasn't coming back. But I don't really understand what happened to him...

tracilicious · 05-19-2006, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

I actually DO think that Dumbledore is capable of making an ubreakable vow with Snape... but not for the reason you thought. I thought that his unbreakable vow was for Snape to kill him at the planned moment (if circumstances called for it) so as to distract them from Harry, to save Draco from murder-peer-pressure, and to secure Snape's spot in Voldemort's hierarchy so as to help bring him down from the inside.

I think he's capable of it, I just don't think it's something he would do. I think if he really trusts Snape then he would make him give his word and that would be good enough. I think you are right about the rest though. I think that eventually Draco will understand the sacrifice that they both made for him and join the good side.

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An another topic, I think Harry's toast. I think that he (or his scar) is the last horcrux, and he/it will have to be destroyed in order to destroy Voldemort. After all, "neither can live if the other the other survives," does not exclude the possibility that both have to kick it.

I really hope you are wrong. I think making a horcrux must be a complicated bit of magic, and Harry's mom's sacrifice protected him. I also don't think Rowling's going to make Harry suffer so much his whole life and then not reward him with a normal life in the end. I think we may have a hobbit like scenario in which we think Harry will die but then Fawkes will fly in and save him.

If Harry, Ron. Hermione, any of the Weasley's (except Percy), or Hagrid dies, I will be crushed. That being said, I think that either a Weasley or Snape will die. If she kills Hagrid I'll hunt her down.

Moonliner · 05-19-2006, 08:17 AM

Take it to the bank:

1. Dumbledore stays dead.

2. Snape is on the side of good.

3. The big three (Harry, Ron, Hermione) live happily ever after

3. Sirrius makes a comeback (but not unitl the real action is over)

4. Ron and Hermione get together

Bookmark this post and save it for when the final book comes out.

Cadaverous Pallor · 05-19-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

Take it to the bank:

1. Dumbledore stays dead.

2. Snape is on the side of good.

3. The big three (Harry, Ron, Hermione) live happily ever after

3. Sirrius makes a comeback (but not unitl the real action is over)

4. Ron and Hermione get together

Bookmark this post and save it for when the final book comes out.

I agree on these. Although now that I'm rereading the post, I realize that I do somewhat think Dumbledore comes back

Gemini Cricket · 05-19-2006, 05:53 AM

I never thought of the unbreakable vow thing to be a dark thing. I thought anyone could do it. Maybe I need to reread 7. Although, I must again agree with iSm that 7 was slow in places. And the payoff for 7 bummed me out. All that and the item was not a horcrux. Bleh.

I think Harry Potter may be a horcrux. Can people be horcruxes? I think Harry might die in the last book OR Voldemort will not die but be sent to a place where he can never come back nor hurt anyone. That's my theory.

I've said this one before but don't know if it may be that I'm crazy, but does anyone else thing that Hermione might be a werewolf? I'm just saying that in 'Azkaban' they said that werewolves only responded to werewolves and Hermione distracted Lupin with a wolf cry. She's also very into the rights of creatures that are different. And that hair of hers, sheesh! Rowling also had her answer all of the werewolf questions in the classroom, but then again Hermione always answers all the questions...

I also have a theory that Mrs. Dursley is a witch that is helping to protect Harry. I mean her sister was a witch... all the Weasley kids are magical... it's possible. It would account for her severe distate for her own sister even though she's dead.

I'm worried that the body count will go up in the next book. But if Ron or Hermione die, I will be devastated.

Good casting call for Umbridge. Staunton is amazing.

Gemini Cricket · 05-19-2006, 08:40 AM

I hear ya. But there's also that aveda kerdava thing. Only one person has ever survived it and that's Harry.

Gemini Cricket · 05-19-2006, 09:08 AM

'Alone' also means w/o Ron and Hermione.

Moonliner · 05-19-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

'Alone' also means w/o Ron and Hermione.

Not at all. By alone I mean without a guardian figure to help protect him. No mom to give him protection, no wizard with a sword toting bird etc...

Having friends you can count on is a different thing entirely in fact for Harry, learning to trust and rely on others is a large part of his journey to adulthood. I fully expect the dynamic due to be hip deep in the action right beside Harry but at the very end, it'll be Harry one-on-one with Voldie.

Gemini Cricket · 05-19-2006, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

Not at all. By alone I mean without a guardian figure to help protect him. No mom to give him protection, no wizard with a sword toting bird etc...

Oh, I see what you're saying. I thought you meant alone alone.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 · 05-19-2006, 09:49 AM

I remember Rowling, in an interview with Stephen Fry (who sympathized with Snape) not to like him too much. Apparently she planned for him to do something pretty awful. So she kept her promise in Book 6. I also remember her saying something about Snape doing something terrible before he could redeem himself, but I think I'm making that up...or putting a self-serving spin on it, since I *want* Snape to be working for Dumbledore this whole time. She's brilliantly written his character to go either way without betraying anything she's already done.

I do think Harry's scar is the last horcrux, and that this will be Voldemort's undoing. I do not, however, think Harry will die. At least, I don't believe he'll stay dead...phoenix rising from the ashes, and all that jazz.

I really, really loved the 6th book. It's probably my favorite next to Azkaban. The 4th was a lot of fun, but it was mostly the side stories that interested me. As plots go, the 4th had the most ridiculous, I think. Why didn't Barty Crouch Jr., in disguise, just hand Harry a portkey earlier on? Why go through all the trouble of rigging a contest. I get that it's FUN. And I get that it would be fun, especially, for kids to read. But the plot holes in Book 4 were glaring. Still, I LOVE the read. It's got so much going on that's great. I find that the movie, because it really does pare it down to the main plot, is not one I can rewatch numerous times without feeling restless and bored.

05-19-2006, 08:17 AM	#3
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05-19-2006, 05:53 AM	#5
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I never thought of the unbreakable vow thing to be a dark thing. I thought anyone could do it. Maybe I need to reread 7. Although, I must again agree with iSm that 7 was slow in places. And the payoff for 7 bummed me out. All that and the item was not a horcrux. Bleh. I think Harry Potter may be a horcrux. Can people be horcruxes? I think Harry might die in the last book OR Voldemort will not die but be sent to a place where he can never come back nor hurt anyone. That's my theory. I've said this one before but don't know if it may be that I'm crazy, but does anyone else thing that Hermione might be a werewolf? I'm just saying that in 'Azkaban' they said that werewolves only responded to werewolves and Hermione distracted Lupin with a wolf cry. She's also very into the rights of creatures that are different. And that hair of hers, sheesh! Rowling also had her answer all of the werewolf questions in the classroom, but then again Hermione always answers all the questions... I also have a theory that Mrs. Dursley is a witch that is helping to protect Harry. I mean her sister was a witch... all the Weasley kids are magical... it's possible. It would account for her severe distate for her own sister even though she's dead. I'm worried that the body count will go up in the next book. But if Ron or Hermione die, I will be devastated. Good casting call for Umbridge. Staunton is amazing.
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05-19-2006, 08:40 AM	#6
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I hear ya. But there's also that aveda kerdava thing. Only one person has ever survived it and that's Harry.
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05-19-2006, 09:08 AM	#7
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	'Alone' also means w/o Ron and Hermione.
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05-19-2006, 09:49 AM	#10
Eliza Hodgkins 1812 Sputnik Sweetheart Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Beach Posts: 2,685	I remember Rowling, in an interview with Stephen Fry (who sympathized with Snape) not to like him too much. Apparently she planned for him to do something pretty awful. So she kept her promise in Book 6. I also remember her saying something about Snape doing something terrible before he could redeem himself, but I think I'm making that up...or putting a self-serving spin on it, since I want Snape to be working for Dumbledore this whole time. She's brilliantly written his character to go either way without betraying anything she's already done. I do think Harry's scar is the last horcrux, and that this will be Voldemort's undoing. I do not, however, think Harry will die. At least, I don't believe he'll stay dead...phoenix rising from the ashes, and all that jazz. I really, really loved the 6th book. It's probably my favorite next to Azkaban. The 4th was a lot of fun, but it was mostly the side stories that interested me. As plots go, the 4th had the most ridiculous, I think. Why didn't Barty Crouch Jr., in disguise, just hand Harry a portkey earlier on? Why go through all the trouble of rigging a contest. I get that it's FUN. And I get that it would be fun, especially, for kids to read. But the plot holes in Book 4 were glaring. Still, I LOVE the read. It's got so much going on that's great. I find that the movie, because it really does pare it down to the main plot, is not one I can rewatch numerous times without feeling restless and bored.
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