Miscellaneous Movie Musings - Page 126

mousepod · 11-29-2006, 11:46 AM

I loved the script. Tarantino might be able to put a Silver Surfer reference into Denzel's mouth in Crimson Tide, but Smilovic's Shmoo monologue as delivered by Morgan Freeman is sublime.

Strangler Lewis · 11-29-2006, 12:12 PM

Richard Gere's character in "Breathless" lived by the Silver Surfer.

Bornieo: Fully Loaded · 11-29-2006, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

Richard Gere's character in "Breathless" lived by the Silver Surfer.

And quoted directly from Silver Surfer #1. File under useless trivia!

Prudence · 11-30-2006, 05:26 PM

If we might divert briefly to the land of the made-for-teevee movie - who else is going to be glued to the teevee Sunday evening for "The Librarian: Return to King Solomon's Mines"? Surely I'm not the only one?

katiesue · 11-30-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Prudence

If we might divert briefly to the land of the made-for-teevee movie - who else is going to be glued to the teevee Sunday evening for "The Librarian: Return to King Solomon's Mines"? Surely I'm not the only one?

No you are not alone. Thanks for the info I hadn't known about a sequel. Yahoo!!!

Bornieo: Fully Loaded · 11-30-2006, 05:36 PM

I saw Kinsey last night. Good film, interesting subject (as discussed on this board a while ago) Acting was great. It was funny to see Frank'n' Furter playing the "stiff." So to speak.

8 bornieos out of 10

mousepod · 11-30-2006, 08:45 PM

Just came back from "Tenacious D: The Pick of Destiny". What a disappointment. Not terrible, but just... eh. Not unlike the Borat movie, I walked out thinking that they've done better and more relevant stuff on the small screen. Oh well.

The real shock of the evening was the trailer for the remake of "The Hitcher". Why oh why must there be a crappy remake of every edgy movie that I hold near and dear? The Wicker Man... The Hitcher... What's next, a Videodrome remake? There's got to be a couple of good new ideas in Hollywood.

Alex · 11-30-2006, 09:18 PM

I'm not saying you are saying this, mousepod, but it is just a thought that popped into my head.

It suddenly occurred to me that the feeling many people have that a great movie is somehow dimished if a crappy remake is made is similar to the feeling that ones marriage is somehow dimished when other people are allowed to do it that you don't approve of.

In neither case is one really affected by the other. The Godfather is a great movie and it will continue to be if McG makes it again, shot for shot, starring Owen Wilson and Ben Stiller. And yet many people would feel that that such a thing would taint or diminish the sanctity of the original.

Obviously the impacts of the feeling are the some, but now I'm wondering if they come from the same place.

innerSpaceman · 11-30-2006, 09:21 PM

I sorta want to mojo you for that keen observation, Alex ... but I will refrain.

mousepod · 11-30-2006, 09:37 PM

I hear your point, Alex. That's not what I'm saying, but it's an interesting argument probably worth pursuing. Let me see if I can articulate why these bad remakes distress me so...

I'm a media fan. The few LoTers who've been to my house can attest that I have a fairly sizable collection of movies and music. One of my greatest joys is turning a friend on to some weird piece of art that they may have missed or otherwise overlooked. That's why I've been a professional DJ, a booking agent, an A&R guy, a podcaster...

A bad remake of a forgotten classic tends to create a negative feeling where there should be a blank slate. When friends are hanging out at my place, and I pull out a movie that I know they'll like, I don't want to have to explain that "it's much better than the one with Nicolas Cage - trust me..."

I remember being disgusted when the flammable band Great White had a minor MTV hit with a great Ian Hunter song... or when Bongwater covered one of my favorite tunes by Slapp Happy...

Sloppy and artless remakes might not diminish the original, but they certainly lumber the original with unnecessary baggage.

11-29-2006, 11:46 AM	#1
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	I loved the script. Tarantino might be able to put a Silver Surfer reference into Denzel's mouth in Crimson Tide, but Smilovic's Shmoo monologue as delivered by Morgan Freeman is sublime. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	Richard Gere's character in "Breathless" lived by the Silver Surfer. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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Prudence Beelzeboobs, Esq. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gavel - I haz it Posts: 6,287	If we might divert briefly to the land of the made-for-teevee movie - who else is going to be glued to the teevee Sunday evening for "The Librarian: Return to King Solomon's Mines"? Surely I'm not the only one? __________________ traguna macoities tracorum satis de
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11-30-2006, 05:36 PM	#6
Bornieo: Fully Loaded Lego Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Disneyland, USA Posts: 3,704	I saw Kinsey last night. Good film, interesting subject (as discussed on this board a while ago) Acting was great. It was funny to see Frank'n' Furter playing the "stiff." So to speak. 8 bornieos out of 10
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11-30-2006, 08:45 PM	#7
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	Just came back from "Tenacious D: The Pick of Destiny". What a disappointment. Not terrible, but just... eh. Not unlike the Borat movie, I walked out thinking that they've done better and more relevant stuff on the small screen. Oh well. The real shock of the evening was the trailer for the remake of "The Hitcher". Why oh why must there be a crappy remake of every edgy movie that I hold near and dear? The Wicker Man... The Hitcher... What's next, a Videodrome remake? There's got to be a couple of good new ideas in Hollywood. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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11-30-2006, 09:18 PM	#8
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I'm not saying you are saying this, mousepod, but it is just a thought that popped into my head. It suddenly occurred to me that the feeling many people have that a great movie is somehow dimished if a crappy remake is made is similar to the feeling that ones marriage is somehow dimished when other people are allowed to do it that you don't approve of. In neither case is one really affected by the other. The Godfather is a great movie and it will continue to be if McG makes it again, shot for shot, starring Owen Wilson and Ben Stiller. And yet many people would feel that that such a thing would taint or diminish the sanctity of the original. Obviously the impacts of the feeling are the some, but now I'm wondering if they come from the same place.
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11-30-2006, 09:21 PM	#9
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I sorta want to mojo you for that keen observation, Alex ... but I will refrain.
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11-30-2006, 09:37 PM	#10
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	I hear your point, Alex. That's not what I'm saying, but it's an interesting argument probably worth pursuing. Let me see if I can articulate why these bad remakes distress me so... I'm a media fan. The few LoTers who've been to my house can attest that I have a fairly sizable collection of movies and music. One of my greatest joys is turning a friend on to some weird piece of art that they may have missed or otherwise overlooked. That's why I've been a professional DJ, a booking agent, an A&R guy, a podcaster... A bad remake of a forgotten classic tends to create a negative feeling where there should be a blank slate. When friends are hanging out at my place, and I pull out a movie that I know they'll like, I don't want to have to explain that "it's much better than the one with Nicolas Cage - trust me..." I remember being disgusted when the flammable band Great White had a minor MTV hit with a great Ian Hunter song... or when Bongwater covered one of my favorite tunes by Slapp Happy... Sloppy and artless remakes might not diminish the original, but they certainly lumber the original with unnecessary baggage. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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