Miscellaneous Movie Musings - Page 134

Alex · 12-18-2006, 10:15 AM

Thanks for the correction. I can't help it that Gibson spelled his made-up word incorrectly.

€uroMeinke · 12-17-2006, 10:23 PM

But wait - what did you see on the plane?

Gemini Cricket · 12-18-2006, 08:45 PM

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But wait - what did you see on the plane?

'Bang the Drum' was playing but I slept instead of paying for a headset to watch it. Too tired.

innerSpaceman · 12-17-2006, 10:39 PM

Gemini, I hope you don't have internet in Hawaii, because I don't really want you to read this till after you get back from your hopefully delightful homecoming Christmas....

Your thing about Mel Gibson completely perplexes me ... in light of your approval of Borat. I understand that Gibson's personal life is abhorent to you, and that you don't like what he might do with the profits from his films.

Borat, on the other hand, just had yet another lawsuit filed against it for again (allegedly) duping people into participating by representing the film as a documentary. Here, bad deeds were done to innocent people in the actual making of the film ... while in Gibson's case, his despicable thoughts (I know of no actual deeds) have nothing to do with his movie, Apocalypto.

But because you enjoyed Borat, you seem to be giving it a pass. I find this stance hypocritical, and I'd like to know why one's ok with you and the other is not.

€uroMeinke · 12-17-2006, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I find this stance hypocritical

Is it? or is it just inconsistent?

innerSpaceman · 12-17-2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Is it? or is it just inconsistent?

Perhaps it's ungenerous of me ... but I tend to ascribe hypocrisy to matters of moral outrage.

Gemini Cricket · 12-18-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

But because you enjoyed Borat, you seem to be giving it a pass. I find this stance hypocritical, and I'd like to know why one's ok with you and the other is not.

You think wayyy much about what I post.

The lawsuit filed by the drunk frat boys was thrown out, dear.

Find it hypocritical if you will, I don't really care. I refuse to defend each and every one of my posts. It is what it is. I can't stand your buddy Mel. Move on.

Mel Gibson's several sandwiches short of a picnic. His movie is not the hit the studio and he expected it to be. Call it schadenfreude if you will.

innerSpaceman · 12-17-2006, 10:54 PM

(re The Queen):

Alex, I would think being of the opinon that DianaGriefMania was absurd would make the story more interesting. It's about a clash of cultures, and I would has assumed identifying more with the Royals as people (notwithstanding your feelings about them as an institution) would provide an enjoyable perspective.

But I must say that I agree with you about impersonation performances. Good as they may be, I can't give them "full marks," as it were.

Alex · 12-17-2006, 10:59 PM

I did find the insight into the royal household to be interesting but I was also stuck wondering how much of it was fact and how much of it was supposition or creative license. I doubt Queen Elizabeth sat down with the screenwriter to tell him how the big buck made her cry.

There were elements I found interesting. But at core, the movie is based on the assumption that the death of Diana is interesting and therefore the conflict over how to grieve for her is interesting. For me, the former is not true so the latter is merely academic. That's an intellectual connection, and only a slight one, not an emotional one.

Not Afraid · 12-17-2006, 11:22 PM

I haven't see "The Queen" (yet) but Capote comes to mind when talking about impersonations. PSH did a MEAN Truman, and yet, it really was no more than an impresonation. Didn't he win best actor last year?

12-18-2006, 10:15 AM	#1
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Thanks for the correction. I can't help it that Gibson spelled his made-up word incorrectly.
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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	But wait - what did you see on the plane? __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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12-17-2006, 10:39 PM	#4
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Gemini, I hope you don't have internet in Hawaii, because I don't really want you to read this till after you get back from your hopefully delightful homecoming Christmas.... Your thing about Mel Gibson completely perplexes me ... in light of your approval of Borat. I understand that Gibson's personal life is abhorent to you, and that you don't like what he might do with the profits from his films. Borat, on the other hand, just had yet another lawsuit filed against it for again (allegedly) duping people into participating by representing the film as a documentary. Here, bad deeds were done to innocent people in the actual making of the film ... while in Gibson's case, his despicable thoughts (I know of no actual deeds) have nothing to do with his movie, Apocalypto. But because you enjoyed Borat, you seem to be giving it a pass. I find this stance hypocritical, and I'd like to know why one's ok with you and the other is not.
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12-17-2006, 10:54 PM	#8
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	(re The Queen): Alex, I would think being of the opinon that DianaGriefMania was absurd would make the story more interesting. It's about a clash of cultures, and I would has assumed identifying more with the Royals as people (notwithstanding your feelings about them as an institution) would provide an enjoyable perspective. But I must say that I agree with you about impersonation performances. Good as they may be, I can't give them "full marks," as it were.
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12-17-2006, 10:59 PM	#9
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I did find the insight into the royal household to be interesting but I was also stuck wondering how much of it was fact and how much of it was supposition or creative license. I doubt Queen Elizabeth sat down with the screenwriter to tell him how the big buck made her cry. There were elements I found interesting. But at core, the movie is based on the assumption that the death of Diana is interesting and therefore the conflict over how to grieve for her is interesting. For me, the former is not true so the latter is merely academic. That's an intellectual connection, and only a slight one, not an emotional one.
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12-17-2006, 11:22 PM	#10
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	I haven't see "The Queen" (yet) but Capote comes to mind when talking about impersonations. PSH did a MEAN Truman, and yet, it really was no more than an impresonation. Didn't he win best actor last year?
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