Hawaii anyone? - Page 4

Not Afraid · 06-23-2006, 11:53 AM

That's the plane I flew in 1971 - or one just like it. How cool!

Matterhorn Fan · 06-23-2006, 11:56 AM

On the news they said the crew's going to be wearing the old-style uniforms, too. Sounds groovy.

Drince88 · 06-24-2006, 04:35 PM

If you walk out to the 'fresh' lava flows at sunset - bring a flashlight --- after the sun sets, it gets kind of dark.

(Not that I've ever GONE to Hawaii - but that's some advice I received once.)

Moonliner · 06-27-2006, 05:19 AM

I've booked the flights. We are going to be spending three days on the Big Island and then hop over to Honolulu for about a week.

We also get a five hour layover in LAX on the way out. Hummm how long are the lines at PoTC?

Thanks for all the good advice so far. I'm sure I'll be keeping this thread alive for awhile as I plan the actual daily events.

Gemini Cricket · 06-27-2006, 08:27 AM

Hawai'i is not just another state. It was its own country before it was brought into the United States. I think the way people act has more to do with cultural influences than just 'Oh, they're just being nice.'

Alex · 06-27-2006, 08:44 AM

So were Texas and California.

We can disagree, I'm ok with that. My original comment was more at the difference between 1971 and 2006 in Hawaii. Hawaii no longer exists in informatoinal isolation and the change from a mostly agricultural to a mostly service economy has done much to smooth out some of the differences.

In the more traditional native Hawaiian communities I think there are some real differences, particularly in the view of how people relate to government. And there are certainly unique things about Hawaii in general (Frank De Lima really isn't funny if you didn't grow up there), just as there are about any other place. But I find them to be differences of minor degree rather than anything truly unique. And primarily driven by geographical and climactic differences. For the most part, they aren't things that are going to be things that are noticed by tourists on a 10-day vacation (such as the political force that is the OHA and the surprisingly large seccessionist movement; or the impacts of the Bishop Estate on community building and population patterns. Or the difference in assumptions if you say you went to Punaho, Kamehameha, or Pearl City High. Or how it is that one of the most popular sports is indoor women's vollyball).

Most Hawaiians (state of residence, not ethnic heritage) I know who move to the mainland are more annoyed by the assumptions of difference (hey, you must have had thatched roofing) than asssumptions of similarity.

In the end, though, the only difference that really matters is that you can get chicken curry manapua at 7-11. As long as that remains the case Hawaii is heaven on earth.

Gemini Cricket · 06-27-2006, 08:48 AM

There's also really good chicken curry manapua at the Manapua Factory in Mano'a, btw.

Alex · 06-27-2006, 08:51 AM

Yes, but there are a lot more 7-11s. Particularly there were several on the walk home from the campus. Needless to say, I ate many chicken curry manapua.

Eight years since I had my last manapua (steam buns from Chinatown just aren't the same) and I still occasionally burst into chants of "onomatopoeia? wanna manapua!; onomatopoeia? wanna manapua!"

No, it makes no sense but I like the way it rolls off the tongue. Plus it annoys Lani so that is bonus.

Gemini Cricket · 06-27-2006, 08:53 AM

I don't know. I liken buying manapuas from 7-11 to buying hotdogs from 7-11... it's just not done, Alex.

And before Leo can denounce me as a manapua snob, I'll confess I am one.

Alex · 06-27-2006, 09:00 AM

I'm not. I'll get them however I can get them.

However, can I lay claim to being a malasada snob? And what a travesty are those cream-filled malasadas you can get at that place in Ala Moana Shopping Center (assuming it is still there)?

Q: How did the Portuguese burn his face on Halloween?
A: Bobbing for malasadas.

That was the first joke I learned in Hawaii, in a conversation with other students about Hawaii-specific humor (requiring knowing what a malasada is and also knowing that Portuguese take the role of Pollacks in stupid-people jokes).

The second one was a German explaining the proper pronunciation of Hawai'i (the punchline being "you're velcome"). Unfortunately I suck at remembering jokes and so don't remember the third or later ones.

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Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	I've booked the flights. We are going to be spending three days on the Big Island and then hop over to Honolulu for about a week. We also get a five hour layover in LAX on the way out. Hummm how long are the lines at PoTC? Thanks for all the good advice so far. I'm sure I'll be keeping this thread alive for awhile as I plan the actual daily events. __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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06-27-2006, 08:27 AM	#5
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Hawai'i is not just another state. It was its own country before it was brought into the United States. I think the way people act has more to do with cultural influences than just 'Oh, they're just being nice.'
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06-27-2006, 08:44 AM	#6
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	So were Texas and California. We can disagree, I'm ok with that. My original comment was more at the difference between 1971 and 2006 in Hawaii. Hawaii no longer exists in informatoinal isolation and the change from a mostly agricultural to a mostly service economy has done much to smooth out some of the differences. In the more traditional native Hawaiian communities I think there are some real differences, particularly in the view of how people relate to government. And there are certainly unique things about Hawaii in general (Frank De Lima really isn't funny if you didn't grow up there), just as there are about any other place. But I find them to be differences of minor degree rather than anything truly unique. And primarily driven by geographical and climactic differences. For the most part, they aren't things that are going to be things that are noticed by tourists on a 10-day vacation (such as the political force that is the OHA and the surprisingly large seccessionist movement; or the impacts of the Bishop Estate on community building and population patterns. Or the difference in assumptions if you say you went to Punaho, Kamehameha, or Pearl City High. Or how it is that one of the most popular sports is indoor women's vollyball). Most Hawaiians (state of residence, not ethnic heritage) I know who move to the mainland are more annoyed by the assumptions of difference (hey, you must have had thatched roofing) than asssumptions of similarity. In the end, though, the only difference that really matters is that you can get chicken curry manapua at 7-11. As long as that remains the case Hawaii is heaven on earth.
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06-27-2006, 08:48 AM	#7
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	There's also really good chicken curry manapua at the Manapua Factory in Mano'a, btw.
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06-27-2006, 08:51 AM	#8
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Yes, but there are a lot more 7-11s. Particularly there were several on the walk home from the campus. Needless to say, I ate many chicken curry manapua. Eight years since I had my last manapua (steam buns from Chinatown just aren't the same) and I still occasionally burst into chants of "onomatopoeia? wanna manapua!; onomatopoeia? wanna manapua!" No, it makes no sense but I like the way it rolls off the tongue. Plus it annoys Lani so that is bonus.
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06-27-2006, 08:53 AM	#9
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I don't know. I liken buying manapuas from 7-11 to buying hotdogs from 7-11... it's just not done, Alex. And before Leo can denounce me as a manapua snob, I'll confess I am one.
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06-27-2006, 09:00 AM	#10
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I'm not. I'll get them however I can get them. However, can I lay claim to being a malasada snob? And what a travesty are those cream-filled malasadas you can get at that place in Ala Moana Shopping Center (assuming it is still there)? Q: How did the Portuguese burn his face on Halloween? A: Bobbing for malasadas. That was the first joke I learned in Hawaii, in a conversation with other students about Hawaii-specific humor (requiring knowing what a malasada is and also knowing that Portuguese take the role of Pollacks in stupid-people jokes). The second one was a German explaining the proper pronunciation of Hawai'i (the punchline being "you're velcome"). Unfortunately I suck at remembering jokes and so don't remember the third or later ones.
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