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Old 07-14-2006, 11:04 AM   #1
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Old 07-14-2006, 08:09 AM   #2
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Yes, scaeagles, I am comparing the Israelis to the Nazis. Not that their aims are the same, rather their methods.

Illegal occupation of foreign lands, mayhem and murder of civilians.
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Old 07-14-2006, 08:37 AM   #3
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Yes, scaeagles, I am comparing the Israelis to the Nazis. Not that their aims are the same, rather their methods.

Illegal occupation of foreign lands, mayhem and murder of civilians.
I again appreciate you complete lack of mincing words. However, I still think the comparison in any form is ridiculous.
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Old 07-14-2006, 08:25 AM   #4
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And people ask me why I like Disneyland so much, why I go to the movies so often and why I do theatre which transports the audience to some place else... It's because this world can be so sad and infuriating sometimes.

Disneyland anyone?
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Old 07-14-2006, 10:13 AM   #5
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Your loss.
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I don't have much to add to this thread, but whenever I think about war and the Middle East, I always always think about this Dave song:

"The Last Stop"

Silence is poetry

Fire
The sun is well asleep
Moon is high above
Fire grows from the east
How is this
Hate so deep
Lead us all so blindly killing killing
Fools we are
If hate's the gate to peace
This is the last stop
For raining tears

War
The only way to Peace
I don't fall for that
Raining tears

You're righteous, so righteous, so righteous
You're always so right
Go ahead and dream
Go ahead believe that you are the chosen one
Raining tears
Oh no

Gracious even God
Bloodied on the cross
Your sins are washed enough
Mother's cry
"Is hate so deep
Must a baby's bones
This hungry fire feed?"
As smoke clouds roll in
The symphony of death
This is the last stop
Scream

Right is wrong now
Shut up you big lie
This black and white lie
You comb your hair to hide
Your lying eyes

You're righteous, so righteous, so righteous
You're always so right
But why your lie
Go ahead and dream
Go ahead believe that you are the chosen one

This is the last stop
Here there's more than is showing up
Hope that we can break it down
So it's not so black and white

This is the last stop
Here there's more than is showing up
Hope that we can break it down
So it's not so black and white

You're righteous
You're righteous
You're righteous
You're always so right
But there you are nailing a good tree
Then say forgive me, forgive me
Why

Go ahead and dream
Go ahead believe that you are the chosen one

Raining tears
This is the last stop
Here there is more than is showing up
But I hope that we can break it down
It's not so black and white



This song is so powerful. If you get a chance, listen to it. It's filled with anger, grief and the few notes at the end lead us possibly to happiness. It's wonderful. There's this yell he does in this song that's so intense that it brings me to tears every now and then. Not to mention that every instrument on the planet is in this song.

I love my Dave.
(Sorry for the derail.)

Edit to replace the first set of lyrics I posted. The second set is much more accurate.
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Your loss.
Was this for me or for Alex?
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Old 07-14-2006, 10:47 AM   #8
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Was this for me or for Alex?
Does it really matter?
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Old 07-14-2006, 10:30 AM   #9
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Your loss.
Yes, I'm sure I'll suffer for eternity for want of a prick god to worship. Though I suppose I should be in fear that New Testament God is reverting to Old Testament God and will begin murdering my family one by one until I agree to worhsip him; fortunately I don't have much contact with my sisters so all I'll be out are some flowers for the funerals.

Perhaps the current situation in Israel is a sign that he has fallen off the wagon of the 12-step anger management program that he's been in since the birth of his first child. We all thought fatherhood had mellowed him but then he started nipping at the hooch again and we all know that God is a mean drunk.
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Old 07-14-2006, 10:46 AM   #10
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Yes, I'm sure I'll suffer for eternity for want of a prick god to worship. Though I suppose I should be in fear that New Testament God is reverting to Old Testament God and will begin murdering my family one by one until I agree to worhsip him; fortunately I don't have much contact with my sisters so all I'll be out are some flowers for the funerals.

Perhaps the current situation in Israel is a sign that he has fallen off the wagon of the 12-step anger management program that he's been in since the birth of his first child. We all thought fatherhood had mellowed him but then he started nipping at the hooch again and we all know that God is a mean drunk.

Ignorance looks so good on you.

But don't worry-I would not dream of wasting my time discussing it with you.
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