Al Gore:How Green Is He?

[Nephythys]

No it's not. Words don't mean anything without action behind them. If he tells others how to live- but does not live that way himself- he is nothing but a hypocrite and not worth listening to- at all.

[SacTown Chronic]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

No it's not. Words don't mean anything without action behind them. If he tells others how to live- but does not live that way himself- he is nothing but a hypocrite and not worth listening to- at all.

I agree, Neph. See above GWB quote.

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

No it's not. Words don't mean anything without action behind them. If he tells others how to live- but does not live that way himself- he is nothing but a hypocrite and not worth listening to- at all.

I guess I'm not one to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Absolutes don't exist most of the time. And, we really don't know all of the facts about the home energy issue. What about the things that he DOES do? You throw those out to?

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

No it's not. Words don't mean anything without action behind them. If he tells others how to live- but does not live that way himself- he is nothing but a hypocrite and not worth listening to- at all.

Bolding mine.

Are you sure about this? You admitted that you still listen to Rush Limbaugh even though he has certainly shown himself to be a hypocrite on certain issues.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

This thread just isn't the same without scaeagles.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Bolding mine.

Are you sure about this? You admitted that you still listen to Rush Limbaugh even though he has certainly shown himself to be a hypocrite on certain issues.

He publically changed his life and behavior- You show me the same of Gore- and then I will reconsider my comment.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

He publically changed his life and behavior- You show me the same of Gore- and then I will reconsider my comment.

Oh, so your condemnation of hypocrisy is not so strong as you initially declared. At least when you like what the person is saying.

Still, I've seen no public change in behavior from Rush Limbaugh so I don't know what you base your forgiveness on. All I've seen is a public commitment to change. Hardly the same thing.

Have you seen An Inconvenient Truth? Do you have any idea what Gore actually says and therefore the standard to which he maybe should be held? Do you know the degree to which Gore does live by the principles he preaches or just know about the purported failures to do so? How much do you have to fail to live up to principles before you become a hypocrite? If Gore has reduced his carbon footprint by 70% is he still a hyprocite because he could have reduced it by 72%?

In other words, do you have anything even approaching enough information to condemn the man as a hypocrite unworthy of any attention?

Or do you just rely on ideological filters to provide you with talking points on which to become indignant?

However, just to make sure it is unnecessary to consider anything I have to say:

I frequently say that you shouldn't eat doughnuts. That they are bad for you. And yet I eat them all the time! Obvious hypocrisy. Therefore doughnuts are good for you.

[mousepod]

Hate to disagree, Nephy, but it's a question of how one feels about the global warming issue. If you believe that Al Gore's message is correct, then it's good that he's spreading it - if you don't, fine. For me, I can look beyond the person and hear the message.
If we were going to discount every hypocrite's message, then how could we take any message from the current White House seriously?

[Morrigoon]

They're mad at him because he owns a couple large houses?

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

They're mad at him because he owns a couple large houses?

Yeah, I didn't read the whole article, but that is the conclusion to draw on the quote. No mention how energy efficient the households are, energy efficient appliances? Compact florescents? Insulation? Yeah he's got a big home, but isn't that a nescesity as a politician?

As for the green utility option, I'm surprised to see they are still available out there. It was a nice idea in the dereg world, but with the energy markets the "green" utilities often resold non-green power. The Gore Household(s) probably maek a bigger difference in thier conservation methods than who they pay thier power for.