Lost season three - right around the corner

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812

I imagine pre-island, if he was trying to scam Claire, pretending to love a baby might not have been so hard. But pretending to care about a baby when he's already been heard talking about how he could give a fig about them? Well...I didn't find some of that part of the episode too hard to swallow.

But he seemed utterly confused when Hurley told him that Claire would like it if he gave her a blanket. Not, "She won't buy me being nice," but, "Huh? Why would I give her a blanket?" For me, when they are going at great lengths to drive home the implication that everything on the island is happening, that everyone person who is there is there, because of who they are and what their character is, I don't think I'm that off base in expecting some logical character progression. The show is all about character. It just felt incongruous, exaggerated and thrown in for comic effect. Much the same way I felt about the exaggerated, "They're so focused on the diamonds that they are completely flippant about finding another freaking hatch!" from the Paolo/Nikki episode. I felt they sacrificed character for a gag.

[Stan4dSteph]

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812

I enjoyed the episode because I do like the actress who plays Juliet (have since I saw her in Gia) and I do like her character. Not sure she's trustworthy in general, but I understand why Jack trusts and cares for her.

She is interesting. I'm not sure what I think of her at this point. I still think she might be an Other plant. I also think she might just be out for herself at this point, so she may still betray the Losties for her own self-serving interests.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

ETA: What JW said, that was my other theory on Kate and Juliet. Which, of course, still leaves her loyalties ambiguous as she could be trying to gain their trust for one of many reasons.

Yup, I figured this was a possibility. Bolstered through the whole episode by the rather rigorous way they were implicating the exact opposite. The only thing that really surprised me was that they told us.

Great episode all around.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

The only thing that really surprised me was that they told us.

Which of course is making me want to be too clever by half again and say that perhaps Juliet will turn out to be on the Losties side later on

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Which of course is making me want to be too clever by half again and say that perhaps Juliet will turn out to be on the Losties side later on

I wouldn't be surprised if they were able to turn her to the Losties side eventually, because they've made her into a pretty sympathetic character.

I am so happy it turned out the way it did. I get to hate Juliet, hooray! I saw it coming, too, which is rare for me. If her story were true, how would she know exactly where Ethan hid his stash, exactly how to open it? Why would Claire flare up precisely when she showed up? If they hadn't shown us that it was all rigged, it would have been a very crappy episode indeed.

Juliet has been on the island for just over 3 years....the newspaper said September twentysomething 2004.....she arrived on the island just before 9/11.

There is a very serious reason why they need people to give birth on this island. The women "keep dying" but they keep trying. The one specific woman "knew the risks but got pregnant anyway". If there's something special on the island - power source, God in a bottle, what have you - they still don't need to have people give birth there. They could just keep sending people in. If you set up an archaeological dig or a base in Antarctica, it's not vital that you have babies there. I can't fathom why this is so deadly important that they'd hijack people's lives and blackmail them into staying by threatening the lives of their relatives.

Theory - Juliet's sister didn't really have cancer, Ben and company just infected her with something the same way they infected Claire.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Which of course is making me want to be too clever by half again and say that perhaps Juliet will turn out to be on the Losties side later on

Juliet's in it for herself. She's not doing it our of some great loyalty to Ben, she's doing it because it's the only way she thinks she can get off the island. IF she sees a way to side with the Losties and get off the island, she would, but she is far too aware of how much control Ben has over things so it would take an extraordinary circumstance.

[Stan4dSteph]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Juliet's in it for herself. She's not doing it our of some great loyalty to Ben, she's doing it because it's the only way she thinks she can get off the island. IF she sees a way to side with the Losties and get off the island, she would, but she is far too aware of how much control Ben has over things so it would take an extraordinary circumstance.

I agree that she's in it for herself, which makes me think that perhaps she is planning to double cross Ben and the Others in the end.

I can't wait to see Jack's reaction when he realizes he's been played by her, it that is indeed the case.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Sorry, didn't mean to offend you by not agreeing with the writing choices.

[sleepyjeff]

?Question...is Juliet still working for Ben or not?

If she is; why do they need her at the Beach with the other Losties? Seems to me they could have gotten anyone from the beach that they wanted using Micheal. The only person on the beach I can think of that would not have gone off with Micheal to rescue Walt would be Claire.

So; if Juliet is still working for Ben....what does she want with Claire? Aaron, would be the obvious answer. Fertility doctor and a baby born on an Island that doesn't have a high birth rate. Is she being sent there to study Aaron....or to protect him?

Assuming time is shifting, or what have you ie: Desmond and his flashes.....could Aaron be Jacob? Ben? Christian?

[Stan4dSteph]

I think Juliet might be a plant for the Others. It's hard to tell at this point.