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Old 05-10-2007, 06:42 AM   #1
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I wonder if Jacob only manifests in ways influenced by other people. For instance, he looks like Locke, but is that how he appears to Ben? I would think not, since Ben doesn't show any sign of that being the case. Maybe Jacob was the one who appeared to Ben as his mom, and perhaps he also was the energy that Jack saw as his dad. It looked like there was some sort of binding circle around the cabin, perhaps to contain Jacob's energy.

It looked like the Others were starting to mistrust Ben and gravitate more toward Locke. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:14 PM   #2
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I wonder if Jacob only manifests in ways influenced by other people. For instance, he looks like Locke, but is that how he appears to Ben? I would think not, since Ben doesn't show any sign of that being the case. Maybe Jacob was the one who appeared to Ben as his mom, and perhaps he also was the energy that Jack saw as his dad. It looked like there was some sort of binding circle around the cabin, perhaps to contain Jacob's energy.

Well I started to think that Ben took Locke to the Bates Motel when he was chatting with the rocking chair.. I was like "Oh writers please dont let Ben put on a dress and try to stab Locke!"

Or maybe Locke was right and Ben is a kook and he rigged Jacob's place to appear haunted or whatever? These are the "others" who did disguise themselves (remember all the fake beards & dirty clothes) and Ben did ask some of them to pretend to be the plane survivors.. Ben could just be bonkers?

I mean during the flashbacks it is pretty much what the person experienced and maybe Ben just thought he saw his mom.. I mean its not that uncommon that traumatized children see things... have wishful thinking...
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:24 AM   #3
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It was a typical bizarre episode yesterday, (one that really made you empathize with Ben's character) sort of...

-I have to admit that scene in Jacob's house was a little spooky.

-Now wasnt that guy who Little Ben met in the jungle after he turned off the pylon the same guy he is with now? That guy doesnt seem to age?
It makes me think something that someone wrote a couple of posts back about time travel on the island?

-I dont think this is the last of Locke. I hope not.. I actually like his character.

-So I guess Desmond was already on the island when the Dharma was sprayed... I remember in Desmonds first flashback last season that he and his bunkmate were paranoid about not leaving the hatch and had to wear gas masks if they went out of it....

- Uncle Rico where where was your orange van and cowlick!!!
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:36 AM   #4
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Uncle Rico was also in another TV series that had some odd aspects - called The Pretender. I used to love that show. He played a character named "Broots". Anyone else watch that?
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Uncle Rico was also in another TV series that had some odd aspects - called The Pretender. I used to love that show. He played a character named "Broots". Anyone else watch that?
Yes. I loved Broots. He was awesome.
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:47 AM   #6
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GD said "Lazlo!" because Uncle Rico stands out most in our minds as Lazlo from the movie True Genius, starring a young 80's Val Kilmer.

Yay! A Ben's history ep! Even though they always bring up more questions, I'm glad we now have some answers as to how Dharma dissolved. It always seemed puzzling to me that the Others used all the old Dharma stuff but weren't actually carrying out the initiative. Awesome.

The guy that doesn't age - lame. Why do that? For God's sake, just hire another actor. We have enough proof of magic on the island.

It was weird hearing the word "hostiles" again - it's been a while. I wonder how the French chick gets involved with Ben. Can't wait to have an ep on her.

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I wonder if Jacob only manifests in ways influenced by other people. For instance, he looks like Locke, but is that how he appears to Ben?
I didn't think he looked liked Locke (like everyone else who watched it, we went back and paused it). He had a goatee, and what seemed like some seriously big and long hair. Of course that could be anyone under that fuzz.

What would a hard-to-sense being trapped in a cabin want out of them? Why the need for converts, babies, mistreatment of enemies? How much of this is Jacob, how much Ben?

Why would supposedly peaceful Dharma not be able to get along with the Hostiles? How the hell did the "original inhabitants" get there? More boats, plane crashes, etc? They weren't exactly wearing polar bear loincloths.

ETA - bunny!
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Old 05-10-2007, 08:47 AM   #7
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What's up with Portland(and I don't mean their liberal city council either)? Ben was born just outside of Portland and this is also where Juliet was supposed to go when she was recruited........why?
Good catch. I saw the sign but didn't give it a second thought.

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I have to admit that scene in Jacob's house was a little spooky.
A little?

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Now wasnt that guy who Little Ben met in the jungle after he turned off the pylon the same guy he is with now? That guy doesnt seem to age?
It makes me think something that someone wrote a couple of posts back about time travel on the island?
That actor doesn't age. He's looked the same for the last 15 years. I think they tried to cover it with the wig.

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I dont think this is the last of Locke. I hope not.. I actually like his character.
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So I guess Desmond was already on the island when the Dharma was sprayed... I remember in Desmonds first flashback last season that he and his bunkmate were paranoid about not leaving the hatch and had to wear gas masks if they went out of it....
Oh ya! Now I wonder if the hazard suit Desmond's counterpart was torn on purpose or if it was sheer luck that he didn't get gassed. Was he the last surviving member of Dharma? How did he escape the gas?
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:28 PM   #8
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I didn't think he looked liked Locke (like everyone else who watched it, we went back and paused it). He had a goatee, and what seemed like some seriously big and long hair. Of course that could be anyone under that fuzz.
It's Leland Palmer I tells ya!
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:45 PM   #9
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:29 AM   #10
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Well, since they didn't actually show us Locke dying, I'm going to assume the island heals his injury. That said, I don't watch the previews and I haven't read the spoilers in this thread.

3 thing about last night episode:

1) Young Ben was played by one of the kids that was in the production of Sound of Music I was in! Sterling was one of those kids that made all the adults crazy, and riled up the other kids. Onstage he was great to watch, always had interesting little things going on, but he would miss entrances and costume pieces. Backstage, well, very few people were sad to see him leave for a production at the Geffen with Stacy Keach. I told him, before he left, that Mr. Keach probably wouldn't put up with his nonsense for very long - I wonder if he's straightened up his act, or if he's just more tolerable in a world of badly behaving celebrities.

2) TGIFriday's ran a commercial touting smaller portions as a plus!

3) A Disneyland ad with all Florida footage. Grr!
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