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Old 05-23-2007, 11:31 PM   #1
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Oh, and musician or not, the Good Vibrations part was hokey. I mean, yes he knows the tune but he has no way of knowing which numbers play which note. Bleh.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:51 PM   #2
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Oh, and musician or not, the Good Vibrations part was hokey. I mean, yes he knows the tune but he has no way of knowing which numbers play which note. Bleh.
Bonnie started the numbers off. Maybe he figured it out *shrug*

I was beyond excited about the flash-forward!
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:41 PM   #3
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Awesome overall, with one MAJOR quibble.

Why the hell did Charlie have to drown there? I took like 2 minutes to flood that one tiny room, it's not like the station was going to be instantly depressurized if he didn't. And both of them know they can swim out of there. Even if it was, "Crap, slam the door just in case," he had tons of time to go, "Ummm, oh hey, the water's not even up to my knickers yet. Hey brotha', I'll be out in a jiff, lemme unlock this door thing and we'll go for a swim."

Boo.
He closed it to keep Desmond to out and possibly drowning also knowing Penny was on the other end of the transmission. He sacrificed himself so Desmond could have the chance to see Penny.

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Oh, and musician or not, the Good Vibrations part was hokey. I mean, yes he knows the tune but he has no way of knowing which numbers play which note. Bleh.

but he did know the beginning of the sequence and it started with the 5.
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:06 AM   #4
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Even if it was, "Crap, slam the door just in case," he had tons of time to go, "Ummm, oh hey, the water's not even up to my knickers yet. Hey brotha', I'll be out in a jiff, lemme unlock this door thing and we'll go for a swim."

I'd have had a problem with that.

First, the door opens inward. Unless pressure is equalized, even a couple feet of water is very difficult to overcome.

Also, Charlie was a believer in Desmond. Desmond had said previously that if his visions don't happen exactly as he sees them, they don't end the way he sees them, and Charlie was doing this specifically to save Claire. He didn't want to risk it.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:17 AM   #5
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He closed it to keep Desmond to out and possibly drowning also knowing Penny was on the other end of the transmission. He sacrificed himself so Desmond could have the chance to see Penny.
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I'd have had a problem with that.

First, the door opens inward. Unless pressure is equalized, even a couple feet of water is very difficult to overcome.
The water was barely coming in. He had PLENTY of time to rethink and see that it wasn't going to kill Desmond and reopen the door long before the water ever got high enough to worry about pressure differentials.

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Also, Charlie was a believer in Desmond. Desmond had said previously that if his visions don't happen exactly as he sees them, they don't end the way he sees them, and Charlie was doing this specifically to save Claire. He didn't want to risk it.
I suppose I'd buy that, but it was still a pretty weak way to die.

Sleepyjeff...if they answered questions the show would be over. The whole point is to keep having questions that need to be answered. If you stop expecting answers you'll stop being disappointed.

I believe Jack referencing his father was just him being drunk and beligerent and meant to throw us off.

I have a prediction for when they get rescued (presuming the flash forward can be taken as "fact" and that they WILL be rescued. Jack's wife will be there to meet him because she's his emergency contact.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:01 AM   #6
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For some reason I think it might be Ben in the casket. I think it's Ben or Locke.

Loved the flash forward. That was awesome. What is it that they have all been lying about, as Jack said? Maybe they didn't tell anyone about the Others?

Totally rocking finale. I hope we get to learn more about what Walt may have said to Locke.
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:40 AM   #7
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I agree, frelling awesome episode!

I think it was Ben in the casket.

I think Sayid, Bernard, and Jin were spared because Tom (Mr. Friendly) et. al were questioning Ben even before that and just didn't think it was necessary to kill the hostages.

Yes, Jack's beard was horrible. (And his shirt needed to go too. )

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Oh, and musician or not, the Good Vibrations part was hokey. I mean, yes he knows the tune but he has no way of knowing which numbers play which note.
I disagree. That keypad had 12 buttons. There are 12 notes (8 whole + 5 flat/sharp) in the Western musical scale. Any good musician could easily translate notes to numbers, it's not an uncommon practice when teaching music to do so.

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First, the door opens inward. Unless pressure is equalized, even a couple feet of water is very difficult to overcome.
But he didn't even try! In fact, he deliberately closed and locked the door. IMO, Charlie did not have to sacrifice himself, but I guess he felt he had to die to save Claire. Grrrr!

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Old 05-24-2007, 12:52 PM   #8
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For some reason I think it might be Ben in the casket. I think it's Ben or Locke.

Loved the flash forward. That was awesome. What is it that they have all been lying about, as Jack said? Maybe they didn't tell anyone about the Others?

Totally rocking finale. I hope we get to learn more about what Walt may have said to Locke.
I think it's Ben, too. The neither friend or family line, coupled with Kate's dismay that Jack assumed she'd be at the funeral led me to believe it's Ben, too.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:56 PM   #9
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I called flash-forward at the first site of CRAZY Jack and the WORST BEARD EVER. Honestly, I'm not usually the person who makes correct guesses about plot twists, etc., but I just *knew* somehow that this wasn't a flashback episode. We've never seen him so distraught before and it felt 'off' somehow.

Words cannot really describe how much I loved the episode, and how much I especially love the flash-forward spin, because it really does answer the question, "How the f**k are they going to carry this show for another 2 seasons?!"

That's how, b**ches! If this is some horrible dream sequence of Desmond's I will scratch out the producer's eyes. I really love the idea of them suddenly being off the Island, and having to get back for some reason. And the idea that maybe the flashbacks moving forward will be flashbacks to the Island. I don't know. Endless possibilities but it rocked my ass off hardcore. GLEE. GLEE!

And I hope my friend M isn't disappointed in me, because both of us have been wishing Death on Charlie since season 1, but I cried when Charlie died. Because they made me like him in last week's episode, and in this episode they made me love him. LOVE, as pure as virgins and Angels in Heaven. I was almost horrified by this sudden change in feeling, but I was too busy loving.

The Hurley bus rescue. Sawyer shooting Tom. Ben being, very possibly, right. Daniel's reunion with her daughter (done with such subtlety), the flash-forwards, the WORST BEARD EVER. I really think this was a grand slam of a finale.

I can't WAIT to next season. Man, that mid season slump that had me almost bailing ship? I can barely remember feeling that way.

I LOVE YOU LOST. I will never give up. I will never surrender.

She says during her post-finale high.....

And why can't Cyclops die?! Maybe Charlie isn't dead. Maybe Boon and Shannon aren't dead (perish the thought). Maybe... Whatever, this episode was awesome!

"Not Penny's boat." Man, I'm gonna get all teary-eyed again.

WHO WERE YOU WEIRD PARACHUTE LADY?!

God f**king damn, I had such a good time tonight. And it's been a long time since I swore because of happiness. I've been swearing like a sailor out of frustration for the last few days.

I wonder who was in the casket? I wonder if there's any significance that the service seemed to take place in a seemingly black neighborhood? Who was it? WHO DIED?!?!?!?! And why did I just assume it was a man. Did they say it was a man in the casket?

Oh, oh! And even though I know what happens to women who get pregnant on the island, I was genuinely surprised and touched when Ben told Alex that he was keeping her boyfriend away from her because he was afraid she'd get pregnant. Ben might be eeeeeeeeeeevil. But he's also kinda...sweet.

Heh.

Man. I feel like a druggie. I want my next Lost fix. I WANT MY NEXT LOST FIX.
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Old 05-24-2007, 01:59 AM   #10
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I am not too happy. The answers are few and far apart and almost always contain another question:

What were they building on the other Island...Runway. Ok, what for?

Was Naomi working for Penny...No. Fine...but WHY was Penny on a TV frequency controlled by BEN?

Glass eye belong the eye patch guy...No. Then who's is it?

Speaking of EPG, does anything kill him? Set the crossbow to stun

Flash Forward? Flash Back? or Flash Over? Some would argue that it was a flashback due to Christian still being alive....some say no, flashforward and Christian is dead and Jack was just nuts......could it be a flashover, alternate universe or something? HUGE Question with no huge answers given in trade.

I am tired of waiting. Durring the very first part of the first season we were treated to a chilling account translated by Shannon of a French Lady in distrress. There was a man named Brennan and a seemingly important key. This scene gave me goosebumps and hooked me to Lost forever.

The Lady who made that transmission and all of our Losties were together at the place she made it....you would think that someone would ask her what it was all about? Hello???? I've been waiting for an answer to this one question for two and a half years and now I have to wait another year almost. I very much doubt if the writers of this show even know what that transmission was about.

Still my favorite show but they are really ticking me off.

As for the ending...like Eliza I figured it would be something like that in the first 15 minutes. I avoided spoilers all week only to not be surpirsed

Still my favorited show..still my favorite show....but with the vast wasteland that is the land of TV out there right now that isn't saying much
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