Is it bad that I agree with this? - Page 6

Strangler Lewis · 09-14-2006, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid

SL is most definitely NOT a woman. (Well, I've never really experienced his manhood in full flower, but I have seen enough tobe pretty damned sure,

) Maybe Chris can post some pics.

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I am at a loss. Probably for the best.

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid

Actually, I make my choices based on what I feel like doing and not what is fashionable nor what men "require".

Then you're a better man than I am. I work out to stay (okay, these days, get) healthy and feel good about the way I look to myself and my wife. However, having generally accepted fitness as a goal, I also do it to avoid having to compare myself unfavorably to other men.

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid

PS: Low rise pants as fashion have come and gone through the years.

You're right. Undoubtedly the next trend will be bare breasted women in Fred Mertz pants with a prominent camel toe.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-14-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

You're right. Undoubtedly the next trend will be bare breasted women in Fred Mertz pants with a prominent camel toe.

A boy can dream...

Prudence · 09-14-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid

I go out of the house 90% of the time wearing nothing BUT red lipstick.

Not Afraid · 09-14-2006, 10:04 PM

Well, I don't know many self-posessed 10-15 year olds. That age sucks no matter what you look like.

The interesting thing now is that I get more shyt from women about my looks/way I dress/etc than I ever did from men. Your clevage is showing! Your make-up is harsh. Your hair is too wild. Blah blah blah blah blah lang a lang a ding dong.

Ahhhhh, how boring life would be if there wasn't always SOMETHING negative to ofset the happiness I feel.

Not Afraid · 09-14-2006, 10:17 PM

Well, I usually have clothes on as well.

Alex · 09-14-2006, 10:47 PM

Though if she puts on enough of the red lipstick, she's technically legal.

€uroMeinke · 09-15-2006, 06:51 AM

Isn't that part of growing up? as Kids we dress like our friends to demonsrtate how alike we are as friends, but as we get older comes the desire to differentiate ourselves from our friends as well as parents. We develop our own style through trial and error. If you're uncomfortable exposing your butt-crack, you'll probably not buy low rise jeans again.

Gemini Cricket · 09-15-2006, 08:24 AM

I was never one to succumb to peer pressure either in grade/high school. I had a Travis Bickle ('Taxi Driver') style of my own that others copied. Combat boots, camo pants... pretty out there for a Catholic school... but we did have free dress days... to their dismay.

katiesue · 09-15-2006, 09:21 AM

Like Wendy I also have a 10 year old girl. And it’s hard for them. It’s hard for me to find age appropriate clothing for her, especially as she’s tall so wears bigger sizes than other girls her age. I’ve heard her and her friends talking about who in their class is fat. She’s already mentioned her poky tummy. I really do think there is more pressure on them, and much earlier, then when we were kids.

I also overheard a conversation between two of her friends at choir one day. One girl claimed her clothes were from Ambercombie. The others started looking at her labels, and telling her in oh so snotty tones, that they were from WalMart. I sat there thinking these girls are 10 and they’re already ripping each other to shreds.

As a kid I always dressed oh so un-coolly. No way my mother was paying for anything cool. I spent half of 8th grade in high waters because I grew 3 inches and my mother decided I didn’t’ need new pants until I stopped growing. I couldn’t dress how I wanted until I started earning my own money and bought it all myself. And then it was what I thought was cool, which wasn’t usually what the rest of my peers thought was cool.

So far my 10 year old kind of goes along to the beat of her own drummer. She does like some of the stuff that’s trendy but she’ll do it her own way. And it doesn’t bother her if she’s different than a lot of her friends. She likes country music, which most of her friends don’t. And so far she’s ok with that. Jr. High and High School will be a different story.

Alex · 09-15-2006, 09:37 AM

I think kids always find something to use as a tool for harrassing and sectionalizing other kids.

The fact that perhaps clothing is more of an issue these days than when we were young (though when I was young I remember a lot of teasing over what people wore -- you did not want to be the kid wearing moon boots on a snowy day after about 1982) is because of the expansion of the middle class and the cheap availability of textile variety.

There is more variety and more money to buy that variety and suddenly fashion comes available as a tool for childhood drama. In the 1940s for the most part everybody wore very similar clothing unless they were on the wealthier side to afford more expensive fabrics.

On the other hand, however, I would say things were worse in this regard in the late '60s and early '70s when the way you dressed was essentially an identity card as to who you thought yourself to be.

Kids have always found ways to tease each other, establish hierarchy in comparison to each other. Weight and clothing may be more involved than in the past but that is just a symptom and not the cause.

And, just to get in trouble (and I've never seen the child of anybody here so it is completely abstract): Maybe your kid is fat. Maybe a little bit of teasing will help put them on a healthier path. You tease the kid who eats glue and eventually he stops eating the glue. I'm not saying teasing is a good thing but it isn't always a horrible thing, and is pretty much a constant across time, culture, and geography. It is just the same peer pressure towards societal norms that adults engage in but, as with everything else kids do, lacks in subtlety.

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Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Well, I don't know many self-posessed 10-15 year olds. That age sucks no matter what you look like. The interesting thing now is that I get more shyt from women about my looks/way I dress/etc than I ever did from men. Your clevage is showing! Your make-up is harsh. Your hair is too wild. Blah blah blah blah blah lang a lang a ding dong. Ahhhhh, how boring life would be if there wasn't always SOMETHING negative to ofset the happiness I feel.
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Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Well, I usually have clothes on as well.
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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	Isn't that part of growing up? as Kids we dress like our friends to demonsrtate how alike we are as friends, but as we get older comes the desire to differentiate ourselves from our friends as well as parents. We develop our own style through trial and error. If you're uncomfortable exposing your butt-crack, you'll probably not buy low rise jeans again. __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I was never one to succumb to peer pressure either in grade/high school. I had a Travis Bickle ('Taxi Driver') style of my own that others copied. Combat boots, camo pants... pretty out there for a Catholic school... but we did have free dress days... to their dismay.
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katiesue Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,678	Like Wendy I also have a 10 year old girl. And it’s hard for them. It’s hard for me to find age appropriate clothing for her, especially as she’s tall so wears bigger sizes than other girls her age. I’ve heard her and her friends talking about who in their class is fat. She’s already mentioned her poky tummy. I really do think there is more pressure on them, and much earlier, then when we were kids. I also overheard a conversation between two of her friends at choir one day. One girl claimed her clothes were from Ambercombie. The others started looking at her labels, and telling her in oh so snotty tones, that they were from WalMart. I sat there thinking these girls are 10 and they’re already ripping each other to shreds. As a kid I always dressed oh so un-coolly. No way my mother was paying for anything cool. I spent half of 8th grade in high waters because I grew 3 inches and my mother decided I didn’t’ need new pants until I stopped growing. I couldn’t dress how I wanted until I started earning my own money and bought it all myself. And then it was what I thought was cool, which wasn’t usually what the rest of my peers thought was cool. So far my 10 year old kind of goes along to the beat of her own drummer. She does like some of the stuff that’s trendy but she’ll do it her own way. And it doesn’t bother her if she’s different than a lot of her friends. She likes country music, which most of her friends don’t. And so far she’s ok with that. Jr. High and High School will be a different story. __________________ My life is so exciting I can hardly stand it.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I think kids always find something to use as a tool for harrassing and sectionalizing other kids. The fact that perhaps clothing is more of an issue these days than when we were young (though when I was young I remember a lot of teasing over what people wore -- you did not want to be the kid wearing moon boots on a snowy day after about 1982) is because of the expansion of the middle class and the cheap availability of textile variety. There is more variety and more money to buy that variety and suddenly fashion comes available as a tool for childhood drama. In the 1940s for the most part everybody wore very similar clothing unless they were on the wealthier side to afford more expensive fabrics. On the other hand, however, I would say things were worse in this regard in the late '60s and early '70s when the way you dressed was essentially an identity card as to who you thought yourself to be. Kids have always found ways to tease each other, establish hierarchy in comparison to each other. Weight and clothing may be more involved than in the past but that is just a symptom and not the cause. And, just to get in trouble (and I've never seen the child of anybody here so it is completely abstract): Maybe your kid is fat. Maybe a little bit of teasing will help put them on a healthier path. You tease the kid who eats glue and eventually he stops eating the glue. I'm not saying teasing is a good thing but it isn't always a horrible thing, and is pretty much a constant across time, culture, and geography. It is just the same peer pressure towards societal norms that adults engage in but, as with everything else kids do, lacks in subtlety.
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