Katrina Response Mismanagement

[Name]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Americans? The usual - be outraged for a short period of time, figure it isn't their problem after a while, listen to feel good politicians who tell them the problem is fixed, and blindly move on with their lives until the next tragedy befalls with poor planning beforehand and horrid management afterwards. Then the cycle will repeat the next time.

Sad, but I'm fairly certain it's accurate.

Just don't forget the political radio and television show spin doctors(from both sides) that are already priming their listeners with "the answers"

BTW, as for who I blame, I blame the politicians(all of them)
(oh, and Katrina too)

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

Some of us are doing things to help and we are demanding answers. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Yes, thank you. I've done what I can. But the implication that continuing to highlight what went wrong in the hopes that the gaping inadequacies get fixed somehow hampers the continued relief effort and that we should all shut up and be good little cheerleaders is ridiculous.

[Nephythys]

For me it is not about cheerleading (I'd look silly in those short skirts) it's about the single minded attitude (not pointing fingers) that insists on attacking the gov't for their own political purposes.

Again- not pointing fingers.....just expressing frustration. It is one thing to see people get to the bottom of the problem in order to fix it for the future, and another to try to use it to change a political point in their favor. It makes me sick to see people try to score political points off the dead and homeless.

[SacTown Chronic]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

It makes me sick to see people try to score political points off the dead and homeless.

The Bush 2004 reelection campaign with it's too numerous to count references to 9/11 must have had you vomiting nonstop.

[scaeagles]

I agree, Nephy.

Jesse Jackson gets out and says that the superdome looks like the hold of a slave ship. What? Has Jesse Jackson ever seen a slave ship?

Moveon.org is planning on using images of Katrina victims in anti-Roberts ads. What?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...l-rights_x.htm
"The connection is obvious," Brandzel (moveon.org's advocacy director)said. "The images after Hurricane Katrina show we still live in a society where significant racial inequities exist. We believe John Roberts' record on civil rights ... is clearly not the direction our country needs to head now."

I could continue to cite many more examples, but there's no point to it.

There are TONS of examples of criticism that is not constructive nor helpful to finding a solution or solutions to problems that clearly exist in emergency preparedness and response. I have no problem with anyone pointing out the failings of FEMA or the governor of LA or the mayor of NO or whomever. Those things can be constructive. Comparisons of the Superdome to a slave ship? Accomplishes nothing.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

So this means you care nothing about the suffering of the people in NOLA, only that you'll be safer should there be some major disaster.

To me that isn't the point at all. I kind of thought the issue was what happened to those people and who might have prevented much of the suffering and death..

I've done what I can for the people of NOLA and Biloxi and Gulfport, et al., with all the cash I can spare, and unfortunately cannot afford to take time off to go there physically to lend a hand.

That's as walk as I can manage ... and with my chewing gum mouth, I'm gonna jaw about screw-ups up and down the line. I won't get very specific about the NO and LA governments because a) they are not accountable to me, b) I don't know enough particulars about them, and c) I have zero hope for them as they are consistently atop the heap as the most corrupt government entities in the entire United States, and that puts them beyond all redemption. Changing the players doesn't seem to help in that city and state, but I'm all for the mayor and the gov being lynched nonetheless.

I'm going to, instead, complain my guts out about horsesh!t-managed FEMA, crony-structured Fatherland Secuity, and witless, dipsh!t, clueless and feable George W. Bush. Without his puppet-masters' hands up his a$$, he has spewed forth with the most absurd and tone-deaf rantings I've ever seen from a U.S. president!

And I will admit that I'm in it partially to score political points. What?, I should pretend that Bush hanging out to dry on this one doesn't give me joy amidst the heartache? Feh, he's one of the few men I'd gladly kill with my bare hands, given the chance. So I won't shy away from admitting that I'm glad to see him get his comeupance for once, when he's gotten away literally with murder for all these years.

[Nephythys]

I'm sorry- you actually think the drumbeat of hatred and violence and rage will carry anyone to successful political change?

Oh wait- are you going to try and tell me that is what my political idealogy is based on?

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

And I will admit that I'm in it partially to score political points. What?, I should pretend that Bush hanging out to dry on this one doesn't give me joy amidst the heartache?

You see, that's completely honest and I respect that wholeheartedly. No hidden agenda, just right out on the table.

[Nephythys]

Well- turns out it was NOT the Federal Dept of Homeland Security that turned away the Red Cross- it was the LOUISIANA Dept of Homeland Security......

wow- that just puts a whole new spin on that little attempt to slam the feds and puts yet MORE light on the LOCAL mismanagement-

Link


and video-
Link

[mousepod]

Major General Ansel M Stroud Jr of the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security served as a member of the Federal Emergency Management Agency's Advisory Board ("FEMA") representing the National Guard Association of the United States.

Major General Bennett C. Landreneau of the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security "is the immediate Past President of the National Guard Association of Louisiana and a member of the National Guard Association of the United States. He served as President of the Central Louisiana Chapter of the Society of American Military Engineers and the Louisiana Chapter of the Soil and Water Conservation Society. He is a member of the Governor's Military Advisory Commission, Louisiana Drug Policy Board, Louisiana Emergency Response Commission, City of New Orleans Mayor's Military Advisory Board, Louisiana Emergency Response Commission, City of New Orleans Mayor's Military Advisory Commission, the Board of Commissioners for the Orleans Parish Communication District and a member of the Executive Board of the New Orleans Area Council, Boy Scouts of America."

FEMA Director Mike Brown was fired from his previous job at the International Arabian Horse Association.

Brownie's doing a heck of a job.