The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 10

Prudence · 04-12-2006, 02:10 PM

Or you could just appoint me as your occasionally benevolent dictator.

Snowflake · 04-12-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Prudence

Or you could just appoint me as your occasionally benevolent dictator.

I'll vote for that!

scaeagles · 04-12-2006, 02:16 PM

In looking at the federalist papers (and don't ask me which one....I don't remember), the Senate was designed for the "career" politician, whereas the house was never intended to be filled with those. That was to be the "house of the people" with turnover designed to bring the common man into the process.

Some career politicians are necessary. The House was never intended to be that, however.

Alex · 04-12-2006, 02:25 PM

Yes, and those same federalists were perfectly capable of designing in term limits and had considered them.

The Senate was never intended to be directly elected by the people, either.

Plus, by handing over the power to the party you don't avoid career politicians you just create career politicians who are beholden more their party than to their constituents.

scaeagles · 04-12-2006, 02:30 PM

Isn't that what we already have? Particularly with campaign finance laws that allow large contributions to the party and smaller ones to the candidates? When the party controls the money, as they do, they can give the money to candidates that will tow the line. Both parties punish their elected members that may have voted the wrong way on a bill by withholding party money from their reelection campaigns.

I say outlaw monetary donations to the parties and allow unlimited and fully disclosed contributions to individuals.

Alex · 04-12-2006, 02:33 PM

Yes, and I oppose campaign contribution limitations in any form (so long as they are publicly reported). I certainly wasn't saying that term limits were the sole cause of an imbalance in party power.

BarTopDancer · 04-12-2006, 03:19 PM

There are three sides to every story.

Their side
Your side
And the truth

Nephythys · 04-12-2006, 03:27 PM

There is some truth in every lie

Some people don't believe in truth

Some people just make up truth

Alex · 04-12-2006, 03:31 PM

Sentences that fit in fortune cookies are the path to understanding.

Your lucky numbers are 4, 23, 29, 32, 35, 36

BarTopDancer · 04-12-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Sentences that fit in fortune cookies are the path to understanding.

Your lucky numbers are 4, 23, 29, 32, 35, 36

My fortune cookie said my lucky numbers were 4 8 15 16 23 42.

04-12-2006, 02:10 PM	#1
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04-12-2006, 02:16 PM	#3
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	In looking at the federalist papers (and don't ask me which one....I don't remember), the Senate was designed for the "career" politician, whereas the house was never intended to be filled with those. That was to be the "house of the people" with turnover designed to bring the common man into the process. Some career politicians are necessary. The House was never intended to be that, however.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Yes, and those same federalists were perfectly capable of designing in term limits and had considered them. The Senate was never intended to be directly elected by the people, either. Plus, by handing over the power to the party you don't avoid career politicians you just create career politicians who are beholden more their party than to their constituents.
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04-12-2006, 02:30 PM	#5
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Isn't that what we already have? Particularly with campaign finance laws that allow large contributions to the party and smaller ones to the candidates? When the party controls the money, as they do, they can give the money to candidates that will tow the line. Both parties punish their elected members that may have voted the wrong way on a bill by withholding party money from their reelection campaigns. I say outlaw monetary donations to the parties and allow unlimited and fully disclosed contributions to individuals.
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04-12-2006, 02:33 PM	#6
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Yes, and I oppose campaign contribution limitations in any form (so long as they are publicly reported). I certainly wasn't saying that term limits were the sole cause of an imbalance in party power.
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Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	There is some truth in every lie Some people don't believe in truth Some people just make up truth
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