OFFICIAL Kings Canyon Camp Swank Thread - Page 10

Morrigoon · 03-12-2008, 11:08 AM

Well, there's always some stress in hashing out the details. Better now than at Swank Camp, right?

Disneyphile · 03-12-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Well, there's always some stress in hashing out the details.

True, but there are really no details to hash out. It's not difficult at all - find people to camp with, drive up, get/pay your site, cook your one meal, and hang out with friends. It's really not that difficult of a concept. There's only one thing to really plan - the meal, and that's it. Why we need to add more stress to it is beyond me.

Morrigoon · 03-12-2008, 11:29 AM

Speaking of which... our team is looking decidedly small. Anybody here not on a team yet? We could really use some more folks...

Disneyphile · 03-12-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Speaking of which... our team is looking decidedly small. Anybody here not on a team yet? We could really use some more folks...

How about combining with Team Discovery Channel which only has 3 people? They're going up early, and it will also save money by reducing the group down to 4 sites instead of 5.

innerSpaceman · 03-12-2008, 12:03 PM

I don't know why there's stress at all.

It's been that way for centuries is, by the way, famous last words.

It was that way for centuries at Yosemite until the day it wasn't. Just as we had done for six or seven years, we got to Lower Pines and found the campsites we liked that people were vacating that day. We made arrangements with them to turn the sites over to us, and then went to the Ranger station to inform them ... as had been done for centuries.

Lo and behold, that was the year the system was changed. There was already a significant line of cars at the Ranger station to be assigned empty sites per the brand new procedure that we did not bother to become aware of because we assumed things would be as they were for centuries. We lost the cool sites by the river.

A few years later, increased popularity resulted in a further change, and sites are now assigned at the time of reservations.

Those were, by the way, the reservations that now sell out in under 4 minutes. Do you suppose the other 464,000 thousand people who want to go camping in Yosemite simply cancel their plans entirely? Or do you think a few of them might go elsewhere in the Sierras, increasing the popularity of other parks and forests?

Sheesh. I have no idea why I am getting grief for trying to work things out in advance so we can have the most pleasant time possible. Is anybody harmed by discussing this?

If you don't happen to agree that those four riverside campsites won't likely be ready and waiting for people who arrive from Los Angeles at 5pm, you can just say so without asserting that I'm somehow freaking out or bringing up absurd subjects like campsites when we should be talking about meals.

Kevy Baby · 03-12-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Disneyphile

Wow! It's like I can already hear us singing "Kumbaya" by the fire!

If we're singing, I'm not going.

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Originally Posted by Disneyphile

How about combining with Team Discovery Channel which only has 3 people? They're going up early, and it will also save money by reducing the group down to 4 sites instead of 5.

Since the rates are not too high, I think we would be better off with the extra site.

Disneyphile · 03-12-2008, 01:39 PM

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Since the rates are not too high, I think we would be better off with the extra site.

Who's going to stay at the extra site until the latecomers arrive then? The NFS confiscates all gear left in an unoccupied site after 24 hours.

Actually, I have a better idea - why don't you and GusGus switch to Goon's team, and then that evens the sites out more and resolves the issue of having an unoccupied site.

(Be sure to make the change on the Wiki.)

Ken, my dad, and I can handle ourselves, and will just pay for our own site when we get there. It's just much easier than trying to split costs, coordinate who is bringing what gear, reserving what site, etc. Also, that means those who want to even out costs only have to worry about 4 sites still, thus making it cheaper or more "fair" for those who want to go that route. We'll still sign up to serve a meal as planned.

We'll see ya all at the campout. I'm done planning now.

Morrigoon · 03-12-2008, 03:10 PM

edit: Nevermind, apparently I was responding to a hypothetical suggestion.

Disneyphile · 03-12-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

edit: Nevermind, apparently I was responding to a hypothetical suggestion.

I didn't see your response at the time I wrote mine. *sigh*

I'll happily remove the three of us from the pot, since I did say it, and I'll honor what I said to avoid hurting your feelings.

See you all there. We'll just take whatever meal spot is left. I'm done.

Disneyphile · 03-12-2008, 03:11 PM

Ok, I'm done letting off steam now.

KB, I'm certainly not casting you and GusGus away from the team - just frustrated at what seems to be a bigger mess than it even needs to be.

*breathe*

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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Speaking of which... our team is looking decidedly small. Anybody here not on a team yet? We could really use some more folks... __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I don't know why there's stress at all. It's been that way for centuries is, by the way, famous last words. It was that way for centuries at Yosemite until the day it wasn't. Just as we had done for six or seven years, we got to Lower Pines and found the campsites we liked that people were vacating that day. We made arrangements with them to turn the sites over to us, and then went to the Ranger station to inform them ... as had been done for centuries. Lo and behold, that was the year the system was changed. There was already a significant line of cars at the Ranger station to be assigned empty sites per the brand new procedure that we did not bother to become aware of because we assumed things would be as they were for centuries. We lost the cool sites by the river. A few years later, increased popularity resulted in a further change, and sites are now assigned at the time of reservations. Those were, by the way, the reservations that now sell out in under 4 minutes. Do you suppose the other 464,000 thousand people who want to go camping in Yosemite simply cancel their plans entirely? Or do you think a few of them might go elsewhere in the Sierras, increasing the popularity of other parks and forests? Sheesh. I have no idea why I am getting grief for trying to work things out in advance so we can have the most pleasant time possible. Is anybody harmed by discussing this? If you don't happen to agree that those four riverside campsites won't likely be ready and waiting for people who arrive from Los Angeles at 5pm, you can just say so without asserting that I'm somehow freaking out or bringing up absurd subjects like campsites when we should be talking about meals.
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	edit: Nevermind, apparently I was responding to a hypothetical suggestion. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge Last edited by Morrigoon : 03-12-2008 at 03:17 PM. Reason: ouch
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Disneyphile SQUIRREL! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On the curbside. Posts: 5,098	Ok, I'm done letting off steam now. KB, I'm certainly not casting you and GusGus away from the team - just frustrated at what seems to be a bigger mess than it even needs to be. breathe
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