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innerSpaceman · 05-11-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Where are you getting 96% of all film goers?
Regardless... When did "popular" ever equate to "quality" anyway?

Oh, I made those numbers up. I never said popular equates to quality, I was just impliying with made-up percentages that the onus of what was un-fun about the movie belonged on the small minority that disliked it, rather than on the vast majority who found it fun.

I figured it kinda silly to ennumerate what was fun about it when it was 93% fun, but turns out setting it out in a list was also kinda fun.

The fun just keeps going!

And wow, I can just imagine the flame-wars among the Trekkies. Ugh, I have no desire to watch.

JWBear · 05-11-2009, 12:31 PM

Honestly, iSm... Most of the things on your list are things that annoyed me. You and I obviously have different ideas of what is fun.

blueerica · 05-11-2009, 12:51 PM

Okay, I'm not sure if it was supposed to be 96% of filmgoers, but didn't rottentomatoes.com have it rated at 96%?

innerSpaceman · 05-11-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Honestly, iSm... Most of the things on your list are things that annoyed me. You and I obviously have different ideas of what is fun.

Can we at least agree about Kirk in his underwear?

Andrew · 05-11-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Can we at least agree about Kirk in his underwear?

Uhura in her underwear was indeed quite entertaining, as was her Orion friend.

Alex · 05-11-2009, 01:13 PM

I wanted to appreciate the Orion friend but the make-up CGI was too goofy looking.

Jazzman · 05-11-2009, 01:22 PM

I forgot about the Nokia thing. Yeah, that was pretty lame. The Budweiser thing was a little jarring too, but neither was as bad as Baby Kirk's awful, awful wig. When the camera initially panned down on him in the Vette I instantly thought, "WTF? Billy Idol is a car thief in Star Trek?" But thankfully that whole sequence ended quickly and didn't recur, so I wasn't to caught up in it.

I have to say that I'm surprised that so many people are reacting so negatively to the film, but then again, I was one of the few people I know who absolutely despised Transformers, so obviously some films just strike that chord in some people. I wonder, though, if for a large segment of the population this film was doomed from the start as seeing such beloved characters recast and in new surroundings was just too much to swallow.

Alex · 05-11-2009, 01:32 PM

I'm sure that is happening to some degree, but most of the nay crowd I've seen has said something like "I'm fine with the reboot and liked the characters but the story was just so stupid..."

So I think it is coming down to how well the good things could counter the bad things and that just varies a lot from person to person.

Most here have acknowledged that everythign I've labeled stupid was in fact stupid but they don't care because they were having enough fun and liked the characters. For me I cared enough that it took the edge off the pleasure but I still enjoyed it while watching it and then as I thought about it later it began degrading.

Others just couldn't get into the groove.

Ghoulish Delight · 05-11-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Where are you getting 96% of all film goers? IMDB has it at 8.6 out of 10; and if you read the User Comments, the "bad" and "mediocre" reviews far out number the "good" or "Excellent" ones.

It's the internet, bad reviews almost always outnumber good, especially in early going. People are far more motivated to bitch online than praise. An 8.6 out of 10 at imdb puts it in the top 40 movies of ALL TIME on imdb. The highest rated is a 9.1.

Not that I put much stock in imdb ratings seeing that that 9.1 is Shawshank Redmption (an enjoyable flick, but highest rated movie of all time? Seriously?) But even so, a 96% from the critics and an 88% from the community at RT? iSm's 96% might have been an out of thin air number, but it's not much of an exageration. Hell, Citizen Kane only has 90% from the community at RT. So yeah, I don't think it's much hyperbole to say, "Nearly everyone who's seen this movie has liked it."

Ghoulish Delight · 05-11-2009, 01:55 PM

I just chatted with the biggest Trek geek I know (he contributed to the Star Trek Encyclopedia and worked on StarTrek.com). He loved it.

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I wanted to appreciate the Orion friend but the make-up CGI was too goofy looking.
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Jazzman Sax God Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland's Tijuana Posts: 510	I forgot about the Nokia thing. Yeah, that was pretty lame. The Budweiser thing was a little jarring too, but neither was as bad as Baby Kirk's awful, awful wig. When the camera initially panned down on him in the Vette I instantly thought, "WTF? Billy Idol is a car thief in Star Trek?" But thankfully that whole sequence ended quickly and didn't recur, so I wasn't to caught up in it. I have to say that I'm surprised that so many people are reacting so negatively to the film, but then again, I was one of the few people I know who absolutely despised Transformers, so obviously some films just strike that chord in some people. I wonder, though, if for a large segment of the population this film was doomed from the start as seeing such beloved characters recast and in new surroundings was just too much to swallow.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I'm sure that is happening to some degree, but most of the nay crowd I've seen has said something like "I'm fine with the reboot and liked the characters but the story was just so stupid..." So I think it is coming down to how well the good things could counter the bad things and that just varies a lot from person to person. Most here have acknowledged that everythign I've labeled stupid was in fact stupid but they don't care because they were having enough fun and liked the characters. For me I cared enough that it took the edge off the pleasure but I still enjoyed it while watching it and then as I thought about it later it began degrading. Others just couldn't get into the groove.
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I just chatted with the biggest Trek geek I know (he contributed to the Star Trek Encyclopedia and worked on StarTrek.com). He loved it. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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