The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 107

Gemini Cricket · 08-17-2006, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

What kind of theocracy do we live in when the president claims land for the feds for the expressed purpose of keeping a cross on display?

Well God did choose him to be President.

Alex · 08-17-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

What kind of theocracy do we live in when the president claims land for the feds for the expressed purpose of keeping a cross on display?

Effing activist presidents.

Wikipedia has an interesting and thorough timeline of the controversy.

Some interesting points. The law the president signed passed the House 349-74 and the Senate passed it unanimously. So this really can't be laid at the feet of the president or even the Republican Party. Though he certainly endorses it as well.

In 2004 residents of San Diego passed Proposition A by with a 76% yes vote. The text of Proposition A was "Shall the City of San Diego donate to the federal government all of the City's rights, title, and interest in the Mt. Soledad Veterans Memorial property for the federal government's use of the property as a national memorial honoring veterans of the United States Armed Forces?"

So this plan fulfills the desire of the people of San Diego. Proposition A was later ruled contrary to the California state constitution. That the city couldn't give the land to the federal government under these conditions.

So they just turned it around and had the government take the land.

And now the process starts all over in federal courts and will probably see the same result. The whole thing is stupid on both sides.

Gemini Cricket · 08-17-2006, 08:08 AM

Is it me or did the Iraq War drop off the mainstream media's radar?

Ghoulish Delight · 08-17-2006, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Is it me or did the Iraq War drop off the mainstream media's radar?

Quick, look over there! It's Jean Binet's killer!

Jinx

Alex · 08-17-2006, 08:41 AM

I don't know. Why kind of anal prigs get upset that a predominantly Christian nation has a lot of symbols of that Christianity. You all know my religious views but the sham outrage many of my fellow atheists pretend to feel is just as annoying as the reverse.

As with the "under god" controversy with the Pledge of Allegiance I agree that once before a judge the judge really has no leeway to not strike it down. But the people who bring up the issue are just being annoying pricks. Same here.

The war in Iraq has been back-burnered but I think that may be even more damaging. The news shows are still talking about it but by spending less time they are even more focused just on the fatalities. "In other news lots and lots of people were killed in Iraq today." If there wasn't a lot of time spent on positive or neutral developments before there isn't actually any time for them now.

mousepod · 08-17-2006, 08:28 AM

TERROR THREAT! CEASE-FIRE IN LEBANON! JON-BENET MURDER SOLVED!

There's a war in Iraq?

Gemini Cricket · 08-17-2006, 08:33 AM

I forgot what I was saying.

Anyway, I'm wondering about this whole JeanBenet thing....

mousepod · 08-17-2006, 08:39 AM

"Air strike mistakenly kills 10 police in Afghanistan"

You'd think we'd hear about this on the news somewhere....
MSNBC is currently doing a piece on Thailand. Ooh, they're breaking in with information from the the Ramsay's attorney...

reality check from Associated Press:

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KABUL — A bomb mistakenly dropped by a U.S.-led coalition aircraft killed 10 police officers in eastern Afghanistan on Thursday, the deputy national chief of border police said.

The U.S. military said the incident is under investigation.

The coalition aircraft dropped the bomb on a two-vehicle border police patrol in southeastern Paktika province around 10:30 a.m., said Gen. Abdul Rahman. There were no survivors, he said.

Col. Tom Collins, a spokesman for the U.S.-led coalition, said the force was investigating the report and could not "divulge details at this time."

mousepod · 08-17-2006, 08:47 AM

"Deputy Prime Minister in UK calls Bush 'crap'."

Here's the article.

Here's a quote:

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"He was talking in the context of the 'road map' in the Middle East. He said he only gave support to the war on Iraq because they were promised the road map. But he said the Bush administration had been crap on that. We all laughed and he said to an official, 'Don't minute that'." Mr Cohen added: "We also had a laugh when he said old Bush is just a cowboy with his Stetson on. But then he said, 'I can hardly talk about that can I?'

Alex · 08-17-2006, 08:53 AM

Where in that quote does he call Bush crap?

We have a one person recalling what another person said (that the Bush Aministration's work to produce a Middle East road map is crap), which other people present claim to not recall being said, which is then mischaracterized (in every headline I've seen) as calling Bush himself crap.

That's as lame as the contortions to bash Gore in the other thread.

08-17-2006, 08:08 AM	#3
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Is it me or did the Iraq War drop off the mainstream media's radar?
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08-17-2006, 08:41 AM	#5
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I don't know. Why kind of anal prigs get upset that a predominantly Christian nation has a lot of symbols of that Christianity. You all know my religious views but the sham outrage many of my fellow atheists pretend to feel is just as annoying as the reverse. As with the "under god" controversy with the Pledge of Allegiance I agree that once before a judge the judge really has no leeway to not strike it down. But the people who bring up the issue are just being annoying pricks. Same here. The war in Iraq has been back-burnered but I think that may be even more damaging. The news shows are still talking about it but by spending less time they are even more focused just on the fatalities. "In other news lots and lots of people were killed in Iraq today." If there wasn't a lot of time spent on positive or neutral developments before there isn't actually any time for them now.
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08-17-2006, 08:28 AM	#6
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	TERROR THREAT! CEASE-FIRE IN LEBANON! JON-BENET MURDER SOLVED! There's a war in Iraq? __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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08-17-2006, 08:33 AM	#7
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I forgot what I was saying. Anyway, I'm wondering about this whole JeanBenet thing....
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08-17-2006, 08:53 AM	#10
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Where in that quote does he call Bush crap? We have a one person recalling what another person said (that the Bush Aministration's work to produce a Middle East road map is crap), which other people present claim to not recall being said, which is then mischaracterized (in every headline I've seen) as calling Bush himself crap. That's as lame as the contortions to bash Gore in the other thread.
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