Get It Off Your (Dead Man's) Chest: Pirates Movie Reviews

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

iSm apparantly isn't the only one who noticed, seeing as the writers felt the need to add beyond blatant exposition via R2 and 3PO (or whatever their names are) recapping why the 3-way wheel-o-melodrama scene was taking place (which, incidentally, was the point I thought needed the least explanation).

I don't see that as being there for exposition so much as for a joke. But maybe people really were confused, I don't know. I though the character motivations were all pretty clear and straightforward so I guess it comes down to just disagreeing.

One thing, in discussing Jack's character is that while he sacrificed Will to Davy Jones he also showed an expectation that Will would be able to get the key. As soon as Will was on the Flying Dutchman Jack switched off to persue the chest instead of the key. Similarly, he showed faith that Will would be able to lead an escape of the imprisoned crew and help him escape the cannibal island.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

I don't see that as being there for exposition so much as for a joke. But maybe people really were confused, I don't know. I though the character motivations were all pretty clear and straightforward so I guess it comes down to just disagreeing.

I personally didn't think it was particularly confusing either...but I can see how people might. They structured it as if it were more complicated than it was (or perhaps as if the writers thought it was more complicated/clever than it was), which did make me at least for a moment start to second guess and overthink, trying to figure out a twist that either I'd missed or might be forthcoming. All of which just becomes distracting and increases the chance of missing some bit here or there.

[Ghoulish Delight]

All part of the "If one is good, 3 is better!" philosophy of the whole movie.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

All part of the "If one is good, 3 is better!" philosophy of the whole movie.

Which was, on the whole, my only big problem with the movie. That, and the dialogue wasn't as witty. But the overall plot and character development I liked quite alot, which puts me in the minority, I guess.

[Alex]

I'm with you Eliza.

For once I'm on the popular side (if not critically popular side) of a massive box office success. So I'm going to go with the flow of being among the unwashed masses for once.

Looking at the list of Top Opening Weeks of all time (Pirates needs another $21 today and tomorrow, which it will likel get, to top the list) there are only two that I liked (and a third that I admired but couldn't really get into) in the top 20.

[innerSpaceman]

Well, I for one had problems with the undead crew of the first movie. It's why I didn't like the film the first time I saw it. I thought the undead crew was a gay concept inserted simply to get pirate skeletons into the mix, and thus be twistedly reminiscent of the ride on which they were laying false claim to be inspired by.

I was not keen on the supernatural element. But then I remembered that the ride itself has a cursed treasure with a supernatural element, and all was forgiven in my heart. I still think it's retarded that the movie curse creates a literal skeleton crew, rather than have the crew become zombies that gradually skeletize post-mortem.

The pic was so spirited and fun that I acquiessed to its chosen conceipt.


This time, it's the mythological aspect that I don't like at all. Too much sea beastie and Davy Jones and unexplained squid crew ... and not enough damnable PIRACY.

[wendybeth]

So, you're saying that you are disinclined to acquiesce this time?

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Well, I for one had problems with the undead crew of the first movie. It's why I didn't like the film the first time I saw it. I thought the undead crew was a gay concept inserted simply to get pirate skeletons into the mix, and thus be twistedly reminiscent of the ride on which they were laying false claim to be inspired by.

I was not keen on the supernatural element. But then I remembered that the ride itself has a cursed treasure with a supernatural element, and all was forgiven in my heart. I still think it's retarded that the movie curse creates a literal skeleton crew, rather than have the crew become zombies that gradually skeletize post-mortem.

The pic was so spirited and fun that I acquiessed to its chosen conceipt.


This time, it's the mythological aspect that I don't like at all. Too much sea beastie and Davy Jones and unexplained squid crew ... and not enough damnable PIRACY.

Ah, see, we are completely at odds then. It's the supernatural and mythological backbones that drew me to these movies in the first place. So I revel in the skeletons and sea creatures (which are, IMO, also explained by the crews damnation. I read it as an aquatic version of Dante's Inferno, and the more time you serve the worse off you are. You curse your body and soul when you become a member of Davy Jones' crew. Your transformed by the sea you love, and your transformed into a freak - a hybird of human and sea life. I totally love that.

[Kevy Baby]

Finally saw it last night.

It was a bad movie.

And I enjoyed it very much.

Some of the holes annoyed me tremendously. The one that really sticks out in my mind was when they were having the three-way sword fight. It took place on old buildings that were so old that the STONE was crumblng away. Yet a THATCH roof was still intact that was able to support three men in a sword fight?!?

WTF?

[Kevy Baby]

Oh...

and the witch woman was hot!