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Old 02-16-2005, 07:21 PM   #101
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Same here. A family member was ejected from my family before I was born. I used to hear about him only in brief snatches before the subject was changed. For the longest time I was absolutely convinced that I had stumbled upon the big family secret. I finally got to meet this guy at the funeral of my granddad, his father. I'd already been warned about him (and consequently was already dealing with my future ejection) so naturally I'm all eyes and ears when we hit town. Nothing. He hadn't arrived yet, and I also learned that he certainly wouldn't be staying with us, so just get that idea out of your head right now. I saw him only from afar at the funeral. He was a handsome, well dressed businessman and it became my mission to find out that he owned a small string of hotels across southern Louisiana and was by all accounts quite successful. And don't forget the handsome... uh... business associate that stood ever so uncomfortably by him through the whole thing.

That was one evening my uncle was quite openly discussed at the dinner table... bringing that MAN to his father's funeral. I had all I could stand and went outside to play with the dog.

Things changed that day.
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:27 PM   #102
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I had all I could stand and went outside to play with the dog.

Things changed that day.
You decided you weren't into pu ssy cats. I hear ya.
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Old 02-16-2005, 09:39 PM   #103
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Yeah, that's an ugly argument either way, and proving either true will disuade no one.
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So in the end, whether it's genetic or environmental is completely moot as the dichotomy runs far deeper than that.
Exactly.
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:43 PM   #104
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Just wanted to update this with a little more info.

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She says her parents -- conservative commentator and perennial candidate Alan Keyes and his wife, Jocelyn -- threw her out of their house, refused to pay her college tuition and stopped speaking to her.
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:50 PM   #105
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Just wanted to update this with a little more info.

From the Washington Post:

and........????? There must be more to that..it seems truncated.
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and........?????
Wasn't what he did enough? That post seems a little heartless to me.
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Old 02-17-2005, 07:51 PM   #107
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Well... They didn't tell us how FAR they threw her
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Well... They didn't tell us how FAR they threw her
Seriously.
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Old 02-17-2005, 08:23 PM   #109
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I registered just so I could read the article. Yes, what was posted was a synopsis paragraph, but the article elaborates on the statements made in that paragraph. Here's another part:


"During his failed campaign last fall against Barack Obama (D) for the Illinois Senate seat, Alan Keyes lashed out at Mary Cheney, the lesbian daughter of Vice President Cheney. Keyes told a radio interviewer that Mary Cheney was a "selfish hedonist." Then, without having been asked anything about his own family, he volunteered that "if my daughter were a lesbian, I'd look at her and say, 'That is a relationship that is based on selfish hedonism.' I would also tell my daughter that it's a sin and she needs to pray to the Lord God to help her deal with that sin."

Maya heard the comments and recoiled. "It was kind of strange that he said it like a hypothetical," she says. "It was really kind of unpleasant."


He knew at the time that his daughter was gay, yet he makes a statement like that? It get's even better- worth registering to go there and read it.


The man doesn't deserve a great kid like that. What a creep.
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Sorry, I should have posted a link to the story.

For those that don't want to register, here is a bit more:

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The end of the campaign brought no respite from the tensions at home. Two weeks ago, her parents said she would have to make her own way. "After all the arguments and tensions over the years, I always hoped it would never actually get to this point," Maya wrote, "although I suppose given our vastly divergent political beliefs, it was inevitable."

But her friends told her no, there was nothing remotely inevitable about the break, that political differences and even sexual orientation ought not result in being kicked out. Maya wrote: "They say most parents would be thrilled to have a child who doesn't smoke, have sex, do drugs, hardly drinks. . . , does well in school, gets good grades, gets into the Ivy League. . . , goes regularly to church, spends free time mentoring kids."
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