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Old 07-09-2007, 11:07 AM   #101
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Hey, to be fairly noted, LSPE does know other people "in the business" who liked Transformers[/i]
Oh, absolutely. But I've seen that particular person tear new assholes for movies that she didn't like. I didn't say "industry people don't like Transformers," (because, obviously, somebody gave the screenplay a greenlight) I said that industry people (and industry-savvy people, for that matter) are often more critical of movies, whether they like them or not. When you spend a lot of time studying something, or working closely with something, you're bound to find more flaws in it than those who do not.

I say again: taste is completely subjective. Where does my dislike of something invalidate your like of it? My enjoyment of, say... eating tomatoes... is not lessened by GD's intense dislike of them. It does not make tomaotes any more or less good. It does not mean that GD and I think each other are stupid for not agreeing. Every bite will still be sweet and tangy and yummy to me, and slimy and disgusting to Greg. The tomato itself remains the same.

So I don't like the movie you enjoyed. So what? This does not me I do not like you, or you do not like me. (If identical taste was what friendship required, EH and I could never be friends! She likes Marie Antoinette, and I like The Queen. She likes Infamous, I like Capote. But this doesn't mean we don't like each other.)
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:11 AM   #102
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I'm not sure you can actually call someone who paid to see Transformers a snob. You can call me a snob, however, because I will not see it.
I'd be shocked if you saw it. Just like I'd be shocked if you saw The Simpson's movie. It's no secret you don't *do* pop culture. Doesn't make you a snob.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:20 AM   #103
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I say again: taste is completely subjective. Where does my dislike of something invalidate your like of it? My enjoyment of, say... eating tomatoes... is not lessened by GD's intense dislike of them. It does not make tomaotes any more or less good. It does not mean that GD and I think each other are stupid for not agreeing. Every bite will still be sweet and tangy and yummy to me, and slimy and disgusting to Greg. The tomato itself remains the same.
Hey, how'd I get dragged into this.

And speak for yourself lady. Those truly evolved among us who recognize the tomato as the orb of evil that it is are surely superior beings.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:22 AM   #104
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Yeah, I was with you on the idea that liking a movie or not is ultimately entirely subjective and personal, but enjoying raw tomatoes really is a sign of physical and/or mental defect.

I have to endorse forced sterilization for people who like both tomatoes and raisins.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:37 AM   #105
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Yeah, I was with you on the idea that liking a movie or not is ultimately entirely subjective and personal, but enjoying raw tomatoes really is a sign of physical and/or mental defect.

I have to endorse forced sterilization for people who like both tomatoes and raisins.
What if we only like one of those?
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:37 AM   #106
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I take the opposite approach to the tomato question. I will grant the average adult one or two foods within our cultural eating taboos that they are allowed not to like. Any more, and the person is either suffering from a genetic disability or a failure of will.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:38 AM   #107
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Hey, how'd I get dragged into this.

And speak for yourself lady. Those truly evolved among us who recognize the tomato as the orb of evil that it is are surely superior beings.
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Yeah, I was with you on the idea that liking a movie or not is ultimately entirely subjective and personal, but enjoying raw tomatoes really is a sign of physical and/or mental defect.

I have to endorse forced sterilization for people who like both tomatoes and raisins.
Meh, what's a little deadly nightshade between friends, eh?

Besides, if you've only had refrigerated tomatoes, I'm not surprised you find them slimy and disgusting. A good chef will see that his tomatoes are kept at, or at least brought to, room temperature before serving. The tomato's flavor is also enhanced (albeit altered) by cooking.

Tomatoes are amazing... to those of us with palates advanced enough to appreciate them
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:38 AM   #108
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Oh, absolutely. But I've seen that particular person tear new assholes for movies that she didn't like. I didn't say "industry people don't like Transformers," (because, obviously, somebody gave the screenplay a greenlight) I said that industry people (and industry-savvy people, for that matter) are often more critical of movies, whether they like them or not. When you spend a lot of time studying something, or working closely with something, you're bound to find more flaws in it than those who do not.

I say again: taste is completely subjective. Where does my dislike of something invalidate your like of it? My enjoyment of, say... eating tomatoes... is not lessened by GD's intense dislike of them. It does not make tomaotes any more or less good. It does not mean that GD and I think each other are stupid for not agreeing. Every bite will still be sweet and tangy and yummy to me, and slimy and disgusting to Greg. The tomato itself remains the same.

So I don't like the movie you enjoyed. So what? This does not me I do not like you, or you do not like me. (If identical taste was what friendship required, EH and I could never be friends! She likes Marie Antoinette, and I like The Queen. She likes Infamous, I like Capote. But this doesn't mean we don't like each other.)
Meh- from now on I will have a friendship application- no religion or politics-just one question:

"Did you enjoy Transformers?"

Otherwise I can't possibly like them.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:39 AM   #109
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So I don't like the movie you enjoyed. So what? This does not me I do not like you, or you do not like me. (If identical taste was what friendship required, EH and I could never be friends! She likes Marie Antoinette, and I like The Queen. She likes Infamous, I like Capote. But this doesn't mean we don't like each other.)
I think the comparisons in the air are more: Person A likes snuggling to "Bambi." Person B likes masturbating to "Faces of Death" videos.

Broadly speaking, I don't see a problem with pulling away from someone because of the movies they like. It's appropriate to say you won't be friends with someone because of the choices they make or the company they keep, and our entertainment choices are part of the company we keep--and fund.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:53 AM   #110
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If I saw a movie I find morally repugnant, it would be hard to post as such without offending people who liked it.

If I saw a movie I find entertaining in a dumb actiony vein, it would be hard for me to let it go when people say the movie was too unbelievable/dumb to enjoy, since I am sure that they just tried to take it too seriously.

I get in trouble for being on either side of these equations all the time.

Thanks to everyone for understanding such a conundrum.
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