The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 110

scaeagles · 08-08-2006, 09:01 AM

Are you aware of Leiberman's voting record? He votes Dem party line over 90% of the time.

I find that to be amusing in a way that one accusation of the Republican party is that they have to march in lock-step. No independent thinking in the Republican party. However, if you only vote with the Dems 90% of the time and aren't anitwar, you aren't a real Dem.

But we can agree on McKinney.

€uroMeinke · 08-08-2006, 09:17 AM

There are elections?

Gemini Cricket · 08-08-2006, 09:21 AM

Lieberman's too hawkish for my tastes. He was pro-Iraq war then and now. Bleh.

edit: fixed the spelling of his name.

scaeagles · 08-08-2006, 09:30 AM

That's fine, and it is bascially the entire campaign of his challenger. I just object to the "Leiberman isn't a real Democrat" stuff.

SacTown Chronic · 08-08-2006, 09:36 AM

He's a real Dem, Bush's man crust on his chin notwithstanding.

katiesue · 08-08-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

He's a real Dem, Bush's man crust on his chin notwithstanding.

Nice visual

Gemini Cricket · 08-08-2006, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

That's fine, and it is bascially the entire campaign of his challenger. I just object to the "Leiberman isn't a real Democrat" stuff.

Lieberman in a speech yesterday brought up 9/11 in a speech yesterday. Linking 9/11 with his support for the Iraq war. All this to rally people to vote for him. That sounds more like a GOP tactic to me.

scaeagles · 08-08-2006, 09:52 AM

Still, GC, when a republican dares to question the conventional GOP stance on something, like the war or abortion or whatever, they are labelled as "independent thinkers" or "bipartisan" or whatever. Here, Leiberman has an opinion differing from the conventional democrat position. Shouldn't he be called an independent thinker then? Instead, he is labelled as a traitor to his party. Zell Miller? Yeah, he hardly ever voted with the dems at the end. He would probably be described well as not a real democrat.

And the rhetoric right now is nothing compared to what it will be should he lose the primary and run as an independent in the general.

Gemini Cricket · 08-08-2006, 09:54 AM

He appealed heavily to the right to get elected in the first place.

And wasn't he also Mr. High and Mighty when it came to wagging his finger at Clinton over the whole Lewinsky thing on the Senate floor, I believe?

scaeagles · 08-08-2006, 09:59 AM

So being upset at a President for lying under oath and doing an intern in the oval office makes you not a good democrat? Doesn't what you vote for make a difference? Again, he votes dem party line 90% of the time.

08-08-2006, 09:01 AM	#1091
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Are you aware of Leiberman's voting record? He votes Dem party line over 90% of the time. I find that to be amusing in a way that one accusation of the Republican party is that they have to march in lock-step. No independent thinking in the Republican party. However, if you only vote with the Dems 90% of the time and aren't anitwar, you aren't a real Dem. But we can agree on McKinney.
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08-08-2006, 09:21 AM	#1093
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Lieberman's too hawkish for my tastes. He was pro-Iraq war then and now. Bleh. edit: fixed the spelling of his name. Last edited by Gemini Cricket : 08-08-2006 at 09:44 AM.
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08-08-2006, 09:30 AM	#1094
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	That's fine, and it is bascially the entire campaign of his challenger. I just object to the "Leiberman isn't a real Democrat" stuff.
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SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	He's a real Dem, Bush's man crust on his chin notwithstanding.
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08-08-2006, 09:52 AM	#1098
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Still, GC, when a republican dares to question the conventional GOP stance on something, like the war or abortion or whatever, they are labelled as "independent thinkers" or "bipartisan" or whatever. Here, Leiberman has an opinion differing from the conventional democrat position. Shouldn't he be called an independent thinker then? Instead, he is labelled as a traitor to his party. Zell Miller? Yeah, he hardly ever voted with the dems at the end. He would probably be described well as not a real democrat. And the rhetoric right now is nothing compared to what it will be should he lose the primary and run as an independent in the general.
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08-08-2006, 09:54 AM	#1099
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	He appealed heavily to the right to get elected in the first place. And wasn't he also Mr. High and Mighty when it came to wagging his finger at Clinton over the whole Lewinsky thing on the Senate floor, I believe?
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08-08-2006, 09:59 AM	#1100
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	So being upset at a President for lying under oath and doing an intern in the oval office makes you not a good democrat? Doesn't what you vote for make a difference? Again, he votes dem party line 90% of the time.
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