Miscellaneous Movie Musings the Sequel - Page 112

Strangler Lewis · 08-31-2011, 09:14 AM

The original trilogy may be beloved, but Return of the Jedi is a lazy, awful movie. You can't really make it worse. Differently bad, maybe. Unfaithful to the original badness. But not worse.

innerSpaceman · 08-31-2011, 09:57 AM

Eh, I think RotJ is a pretty lazy movie myself, but (imo) you can definitely make it worse, and that's been done.

Music is one of the inimitable things about a movie that are intrinsic to its quality, but so tricky. Just as a lead performance can make or break a film, so can a film score. Changing the music in Jabba's Palace and for the grand finale of the film were no small changes. After those botch jobs, no amount digital Ewok blinks or stupidly dubbed idiocies will make much of a difference to me. Ruination has already occurred - imho.

Now all I need is a time machine, so I can watch either my VHS or laserdisc of the original film. Otherwise, I will never watch Return of the Jedi again - but yeah, that's no great loss, I freely admit.

Gn2Dlnd · 08-31-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Now all I need is a time machine, so I can watch either my VHS or laserdisc of the original film. Otherwise, I will never watch Return of the Jedi again - but yeah, that's no great loss, I freely admit.

Let me know if you want to borrow my VCR.

mousepod · 08-31-2011, 12:17 PM

There are "original versions" of the whole OT on DVD - as preserved/restored by fans. But I'm still not really interested in watching Jedi again anytime soon in any version.

innerSpaceman · 08-31-2011, 02:14 PM

Pfft, I was an idiot to buy a set of those once. Played once, then fell apart. Crappy cheapass burn job. Bah.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-07-2011, 10:47 AM

Gn2Dlnd · 09-07-2011, 10:42 PM

Is that the Slave 1 hovering in the background of the last panel? Is that racist?

(was recently listening to yet another bitchmoan about the phrase "tar baby," which I don't think was ever racist, it's a friggin' baby made of TAR, used to trap Bre'r Rabbit, but for all I know, was an existing term, like "jiminy crickets," used by Joel Chandler Harris to piss off illiterates 130 years in the future)

RStar · 09-08-2011, 12:18 AM

Saw a test screening of a Nic Cage movie today. It has no release date yet, but I hear it will be some time in 2012. It was pretty good, but I like Nic, and enjoyed the National Treasures (they are working on the 3rd on comming up with a 3rd one). I'd tell you more, but I could get sued for over $5 million.

Alex · 09-08-2011, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

(was recently listening to yet another bitchmoan about the phrase "tar baby," which I don't think was ever racist, it's a friggin' baby made of TAR, used to trap Bre'r Rabbit, but for all I know, was an existing term, like "jiminy crickets," used by Joel Chandler Harris to piss off illiterates 130 years in the future)

Because of my grandfather I reached a depressing age before learning I shouldn't say the following things:

"tar baby" in reference to a black child.
"porch monkey" in reference to a black child.
"****** knocking" in reference to knocking on a neighbor's door and running away.
"****** toes" in reference to Brazil nuts.

alphabassettgrrl · 09-08-2011, 08:53 AM

I thought "tar baby" was a slur? Multiple meanings, since in the Brer Rabbit story it was used straightforwardly, but I thought it was in common use. And not in a good way.

Hopefully I'm wrong and it's just a sticky trap for a silly rabbit.

08-31-2011, 09:14 AM	#1
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	The original trilogy may be beloved, but Return of the Jedi is a lazy, awful movie. You can't really make it worse. Differently bad, maybe. Unfaithful to the original badness. But not worse. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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08-31-2011, 09:57 AM	#2
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Eh, I think RotJ is a pretty lazy movie myself, but (imo) you can definitely make it worse, and that's been done. Music is one of the inimitable things about a movie that are intrinsic to its quality, but so tricky. Just as a lead performance can make or break a film, so can a film score. Changing the music in Jabba's Palace and for the grand finale of the film were no small changes. After those botch jobs, no amount digital Ewok blinks or stupidly dubbed idiocies will make much of a difference to me. Ruination has already occurred - imho. Now all I need is a time machine, so I can watch either my VHS or laserdisc of the original film. Otherwise, I will never watch Return of the Jedi again - but yeah, that's no great loss, I freely admit.
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08-31-2011, 12:17 PM	#4
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	There are "original versions" of the whole OT on DVD - as preserved/restored by fans. But I'm still not really interested in watching Jedi again anytime soon in any version. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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08-31-2011, 02:14 PM	#5
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Pfft, I was an idiot to buy a set of those once. Played once, then fell apart. Crappy cheapass burn job. Bah.
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Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	Is that the Slave 1 hovering in the background of the last panel? Is that racist? (was recently listening to yet another bitchmoan about the phrase "tar baby," which I don't think was ever racist, it's a friggin' baby made of TAR, used to trap Bre'r Rabbit, but for all I know, was an existing term, like "jiminy crickets," used by Joel Chandler Harris to piss off illiterates 130 years in the future) __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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RStar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Me & Manyard hangin out! Posts: 5,433	Saw a test screening of a Nic Cage movie today. It has no release date yet, but I hear it will be some time in 2012. It was pretty good, but I like Nic, and enjoyed the National Treasures (they are working on the 3rd on comming up with a 3rd one). I'd tell you more, but I could get sued for over $5 million. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup! www.StarTownGifts.com
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alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	I thought "tar baby" was a slur? Multiple meanings, since in the Brer Rabbit story it was used straightforwardly, but I thought it was in common use. And not in a good way. Hopefully I'm wrong and it's just a sticky trap for a silly rabbit. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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