The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 121

Nephythys · 10-05-2006, 03:45 PM

No doubt- but I don't think this is the huge OMG scandal that was originally thought.

Bad yes- criminal? Maybe not. Worth the cries for the entire republican leadership to resign? That was ridiculous.

It's as if the dems thought they could throw this out there- the media ran with it- and they seemed to think the entire leadership on the other side would just say "oh gee, we quit" and roll out of town.

It's laughable.

We'll see where all the trails go. I find it almost amusing to see ABC scramble- they were all on the front of this- then the news comes out that the guy was 18, now they have screaming headlines "3 MORE Pages come forward" blah blah blah....but NOTHING seems to be what they say it is anymore.

Meh- I'll just be interested in the end result- what actually comes out when the hysterical shrilling is done.

Alex · 10-05-2006, 04:19 PM

Well, at least ABC gets the comfort of knowing that within one month they were condemned as shills for both the Republicans and Democrats.

Motorboat Cruiser · 10-06-2006, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

It's as if the dems thought they could throw this out there- the media ran with it- and they seemed to think the entire leadership on the other side would just say "oh gee, we quit" and roll out of town.

It's laughable.

So, which democrat was it that "threw this out there"? And the media ran with it so quickly that the Miami Herald and St Petersburg Times (?) sat on the story for a year?

No matter how you slice it, this particular man engaged in inappropriate conversations with minors. Foley did that. Not the democrats. To blame them for the current problems is ridiculous. Are the democrats saints? Of course not. Are they just as bad? Probably. But, even if there is any merit to this being an October surprise, and I have yet to see any piece of evidence that is convincing, so what? Nothing wrong at all with the republicans getting a taste of the same medicine that Karl Rove has made a career out of dishing out.

Nephythys · 10-06-2006, 07:56 AM

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So, which democrat was it that "threw this out there"? And the media ran with it so quickly that the Miami Herald and St Petersburg Times (?) sat on the story for a year?

No matter how you slice it, this particular man engaged in inappropriate conversations with minors. Foley did that. Not the democrats. To blame them for the current problems is ridiculous. Are the democrats saints? Of course not. Are they just as bad? Probably. But, even if there is any merit to this being an October surprise, and I have yet to see any piece of evidence that is convincing, so what? Nothing wrong at all with the republicans getting a taste of the same medicine that Karl Rove has made a career out of dishing out.

I am not blaming them for Foley's behavior. I am blaming them for blatant hypocrisy. I am blaming them for their obvious double standards. I am blaming them for their over reaching attempts to take out more people than just Foley. I am blaming them for being who they are- and frankly I am not going to pretend to respect any of them.

No matter how you slice it? The guy they made a huge deal of- with the nasty IM's- was over 18. I don't know other ages. So no, I don't know that slice.

JWBear · 10-06-2006, 08:18 AM

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I am not blaming them for Foley's behavior. I am blaming them for blatant hypocrisy. I am blaming them for their obvious double standards... I am blaming them for being who they are- and frankly I am not going to pretend to respect any of them....

Interesting... That's exactly how I feel about the Rebublicans in Congress!

Nephythys · 10-06-2006, 08:25 AM

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Interesting... That's exactly how I feel about the Rebublicans in Congress!

WTH are you rolling your eyes. I don't give a shyt if you respect them- just like I will not apologize for loathing the dems.

So what? You act like I said a bad thing.

Nephythys · 10-05-2006, 04:42 PM

*snort* fair's fair?

Scrooge McSam · 10-05-2006, 04:59 PM

Damn... you're right!

three more pages come forward, one from the 1998 page class

These rotten dems have been setting this up for 8 years!

Bastards!

Alex · 10-05-2006, 05:11 PM

Considering that some of them aren't even clear on what the internet is, I'm going to take it as a sign of enlightenment that Foley was using AIM or ICQ easly as 1998.

scaeagles · 10-06-2006, 05:32 AM

Here's my disconnect with what you're saying, MBC.

Foley deserves to be gone. He may deserve to be prosecuted.

If republicans were hiding this to protect a seat, the leadership deserves to be gone.

If dems were sitting on it to use at a poilitically opportune time, their leadership is just as guilty of a coverup as are the republican leadership.

October surprises are October surprises. The drunk driving thing was an October surprise, and there was no problem sitting on that to use. The Geaorge Bush senior flying to Iran to tell them to wait to release hostages was an October surprise (though somewhat stupid if you ask me). Politics. But this needed to rise above politics on both sides. I am assuming, of course, that these were minors. If they weren't, what I'm sayong about the leadership on both sides and using this as an October surprise changes.

10-05-2006, 03:45 PM	#1
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	No doubt- but I don't think this is the huge OMG scandal that was originally thought. Bad yes- criminal? Maybe not. Worth the cries for the entire republican leadership to resign? That was ridiculous. It's as if the dems thought they could throw this out there- the media ran with it- and they seemed to think the entire leadership on the other side would just say "oh gee, we quit" and roll out of town. It's laughable. We'll see where all the trails go. I find it almost amusing to see ABC scramble- they were all on the front of this- then the news comes out that the guy was 18, now they have screaming headlines "3 MORE Pages come forward" blah blah blah....but NOTHING seems to be what they say it is anymore. Meh- I'll just be interested in the end result- what actually comes out when the hysterical shrilling is done.
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10-05-2006, 04:19 PM	#2
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Well, at least ABC gets the comfort of knowing that within one month they were condemned as shills for both the Republicans and Democrats.
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10-05-2006, 04:42 PM	#7
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	snort fair's fair?
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10-05-2006, 04:59 PM	#8
Scrooge McSam What? Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,635	Damn... you're right! three more pages come forward, one from the 1998 page class These rotten dems have been setting this up for 8 years! Bastards!
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10-05-2006, 05:11 PM	#9
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Considering that some of them aren't even clear on what the internet is, I'm going to take it as a sign of enlightenment that Foley was using AIM or ICQ easly as 1998.
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10-06-2006, 05:32 AM	#10
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Here's my disconnect with what you're saying, MBC. Foley deserves to be gone. He may deserve to be prosecuted. If republicans were hiding this to protect a seat, the leadership deserves to be gone. If dems were sitting on it to use at a poilitically opportune time, their leadership is just as guilty of a coverup as are the republican leadership. October surprises are October surprises. The drunk driving thing was an October surprise, and there was no problem sitting on that to use. The Geaorge Bush senior flying to Iran to tell them to wait to release hostages was an October surprise (though somewhat stupid if you ask me). Politics. But this needed to rise above politics on both sides. I am assuming, of course, that these were minors. If they weren't, what I'm sayong about the leadership on both sides and using this as an October surprise changes.
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