The Gay Thread - Page 127

alphabassettgrrl · 03-26-2013, 02:47 PM

I'm hopeful, since the pro-8 side doesn't really have a case. But on the other side, the justices don't really want to legalize gay marriage...

Hoping, but not holding my breath.

Kevy Baby · 03-26-2013, 06:44 PM

It was reported that if the SCOTUS elects to not rule on the Prop 8 issue, that marriage between same sex persons would become legal in California - is this correct?

alphabassettgrrl · 03-26-2013, 07:29 PM

That should be correct, since the last ruling on Prop 8 was to overturn it.

Alex · 03-27-2013, 05:09 AM

DOMA down, minimal ruling on Prop 8 that knocks it down in California but has no precedent outside of the state.

innerSpaceman · 03-27-2013, 11:15 AM

It's unwise to read too much into the tea leaves of the justices' questions during oral argument - but I have to say the comments and queries (or is that queeries?) during the Prop 8 hearing made the Supreme Court look like a medieval institution and the justices seem as if they lived behind dusty cloistered walls.

So it looks as if they will try for a narrow ruling affecting only California - but since quite a few realize how ridiculous and untenable it would be to say something is unconstitutional in one state but not the others - it may very well be they will deny standing in the case and leave either the 9th Circuit decision or the district court decision in place. Either way, Prop 8 is dead in California - but it's looking very unlikely gay marriage bans will be ruled generally unconstitutional ... yet.

If the 9th circuit decision is left standing, that has valuable precedent that can be used in other cases. If just the district court decision is upheld, there's little future value of that broad and landmark decision.

DOMA, on the other hand, appears to be unquestionably and door nail dead, based again on the uncertain but certainly more crystal clear questions and concerns expressed at the hearing this morning. (The audio hasn't been released quite yet, as I write this, so I haven't heard with my own ears as of now.)

innerSpaceman · 04-16-2013, 09:57 AM

Brilliant.

katiesue · 04-16-2013, 10:27 AM

A couple of weeks ago at Disneyland we saw a young man (maybe 5 or 4) dressed as a princess. Maddie said it made her happy to see it.

Cadaverous Pallor · 04-16-2013, 01:10 PM

Love those sorts of stories.

lashbear · 04-23-2013, 01:54 AM

I'm spending far too much time on Facebook. I just spent a minute looking for the "Like" button on Katiesue's post....

SzczerbiakManiac · 04-23-2013, 09:38 AM

French National Assembly Finalizes Passage Of Marriage Equality

14 down and a lot more to go, but this is definitely progress!

03-26-2013, 02:47 PM	#1
alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	I'm hopeful, since the pro-8 side doesn't really have a case. But on the other side, the justices don't really want to legalize gay marriage... Hoping, but not holding my breath. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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03-26-2013, 06:44 PM	#2
Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	It was reported that if the SCOTUS elects to not rule on the Prop 8 issue, that marriage between same sex persons would become legal in California - is this correct? __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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03-26-2013, 07:29 PM	#3
alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	That should be correct, since the last ruling on Prop 8 was to overturn it. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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03-27-2013, 05:09 AM	#4
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	DOMA down, minimal ruling on Prop 8 that knocks it down in California but has no precedent outside of the state.
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03-27-2013, 11:15 AM	#5
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	It's unwise to read too much into the tea leaves of the justices' questions during oral argument - but I have to say the comments and queries (or is that queeries?) during the Prop 8 hearing made the Supreme Court look like a medieval institution and the justices seem as if they lived behind dusty cloistered walls. So it looks as if they will try for a narrow ruling affecting only California - but since quite a few realize how ridiculous and untenable it would be to say something is unconstitutional in one state but not the others - it may very well be they will deny standing in the case and leave either the 9th Circuit decision or the district court decision in place. Either way, Prop 8 is dead in California - but it's looking very unlikely gay marriage bans will be ruled generally unconstitutional ... yet. If the 9th circuit decision is left standing, that has valuable precedent that can be used in other cases. If just the district court decision is upheld, there's little future value of that broad and landmark decision. DOMA, on the other hand, appears to be unquestionably and door nail dead, based again on the uncertain but certainly more crystal clear questions and concerns expressed at the hearing this morning. (The audio hasn't been released quite yet, as I write this, so I haven't heard with my own ears as of now.)
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04-16-2013, 09:57 AM	#6
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Brilliant.
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katiesue Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,678	A couple of weeks ago at Disneyland we saw a young man (maybe 5 or 4) dressed as a princess. Maddie said it made her happy to see it. __________________ My life is so exciting I can hardly stand it.
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SzczerbiakManiac "ZER-bee-ak" Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,409	French National Assembly Finalizes Passage Of Marriage Equality 14 down and a lot more to go, but this is definitely progress! __________________
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