Avatar.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Alex

Yeah, Lucas is going to feel the need to update to 3-D and then re-release them.

I've got an even worse feeling about this.

[Alex]

He's going to do the same to American Graffiti.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Now envisioning American Graffiti with 10x the cars and people in the background.

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Avatar is about to overtake Star Wars on the All Time chart.

No worries. With inflation, the next Hannah Montana flick will probably overtake Star Wars too. I can even imagine the weekend figures in the year 2045:

Originally Posted by LA Times, Monday, December 11th 2045

"Van Wilder 38 overtakes Star Wars and Avatar on All Time Highest Grossing Movie List! First place still easily held by Dude, Where's My Shuttlecraft."

[Alex]

I believe the clinical advice is that if you have a hard-on for beating on a movie you haven't seen yet that lasts for more than four weeks you're supposed to see a doctor.

Yes, inflation will eventually make achieving Star Wars numbers mundane. But Avatar is only the third movie to do so and one of those was 12 years ago. So it is still somewhat noteworthy in a trivia-oriented way that it has done so. Using unadjusted numbers, Titanic's twelve-year reign as the title-holder for most money made theatrically is the longest it has ever taken to be surpassed. So, again, it is interesting to those inclined to trivia that something is showing signs it might finally happen.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Alex, stop raining on Jazzman's parade of raining on everyone else's parade.

[JWBear]

When I took the unpopular position of hating a movie everyone else here loved, I at least watched it first.

[BarTopDancer]

JW, you silly Bear. He doesn't need to watch Avatar. He's seen/heard enough to know it's just giant Smurfs reenacting Pocahontas and Fern Gully now with teh sex!

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

JW, you silly Bear. He doesn't need to watch Avatar. He's seen/heard enough to know it's just giant Smurfs reenacting Pocahontas and Fern Gully now with teh sex!

Pretty much.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

$15.50 to see Alien Smurf Hippies!?! I don't f-ing think so! If I want to see 3D hippies with anti-capitalist ideals running around raging against The Man, I'll go hang out in downtown Portland. And if I want them to be funnily colored hippies, I'll go hang out at the Saturday Market. Besides, isn't it a bit disingenuous to make a big movie all about how humans are evil, Western nature rapists, and then charge $15 to see it? Seems a little un-hippy-like to go all mega-capitalist on the admission price to see your anti-capitalism movie. Shouldn't they be charging, like, beads or carbon credits or organic, free trade coffee for admission or something? Anyhow, I'll see it when it hits Netflix. Sorry Mr. Cameron.

Originally Posted by Jazzman

The only way I'll see this film is in 3D, as that and its overall visuals are all that I'm interested in. Otherwise, it's just another "People are evil" film, which isn't worth more than a Netflix slot to me.

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Now that I know there's a love scene, I really have to see it. 3D Smurf love... How fantastic is that!?!

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Looks like some people are buying into the Greenpeace message a bit too much.

Originally Posted by Jazzman

I guess one of the things that I find most laughable, or perhaps maddening, about that whole thing is that their depression is based on the belief that Earth sucks and can never be the utopia in the film. Well, yeah, Earth will never have glowing neon trees, disco ferns or six foot Smurfs, but come on, the Earth is not bad at all. It's pretty kick ass, in fact. Visit Yosemite, or Yellowstone, or the Caribbean, or Hawai'i, or the Maldives, or the Alps, or any number of Earth's beautiful wonders. You'll see that this planet still has it going on, so pull your mopey asses together and get out of the house!

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Not quite. Avoiding Potter because one thinks it will turn one to witchcraft is being both ignorant of the story's message and point as well as being foolishly superstitious. Not feeling inspired or drawn to see Avatar because one has no interest in neon alien hippy Smurfs is simply personal taste. Some people are inspired to go see certain movies, others are motivated to see others. I recently greatly anticipated the release of Boondock Saints II. Does that give me a right or reason to criticize those who did not find Boondocks an interesting draw and accuse them of being stupid? No, of course not, because not everyone is required to be pulled into the anticipation and excitement of the same things, even when those things become societal fad du jours. In other words, avoidance due to ignorance and opting not to partake due to lack of any interest at all are two entirely different things, and the latter is a completely innocent and respectable situation.

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Pretty much.

Given the multiple cracks you have taken at the movie-I would say it is not an innocent disinterest.

With the more liberal bent of Hollywood it can not come as a surprise that there are sometimes messages in movies that trend towards that view. So what? Of course you can choose not to go see those movies- but why waste so much time railing about it if it was just "disinterest".

My politics are quite conservative- everyone knows that- but I was able to enjoy this movie for what it was- a fun movie, set in a beautiful world different than our own. It did not make be think that all humans are evil, or that the military is evil, or that we are killing our planet. It's a fictional story-tinted with some "progressive" messages- again, so what?

I guess you are going to go see it-hope you enjoy it. But don't pretend this is benign disinterest on your part-not with so many quoteable slams on something you have not seen- MUCH like the people who slammed the Harry Potter books as evil without reading them or knowing anything about them.