POTC Johnny Refurb - Page 13

Ghoulish Delight · 07-03-2006, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Is not Finding Nemo Subs essentially an overlay and tweak? I long held out hope that they would eventually fill in the lagoon and do something completely new. Or at least find another water-based attraction to do.

While a whole new ride concept would have been preferable, at least it's a ground-up redesign with completely new technology (not just a few bits of new technology squeezed amongst the old technology), and a completely new story. That doesn't, of course, guarantee quality, but at least it presents the opportunity. If they do it right, it stands to be a fair sight better than if they ahd glued a lucky fin to the sea serpent in the cave.

Gemini Cricket · 07-03-2006, 05:39 AM

From the video I've seen, I really don't care much for the projection of Davey Jones either. But I love the waterfall effect. Pretty cool.

I could have sworn that I heard that Depp and Rush did the voices for their AA's. :shrug:

I would agree that Disneyland isn't a museum and shouldn't be. But tweaking rides that need tweaking is fine with me. Adjusting rides that are doing just fine, kind of worries me. I mean the lines for POTC are always long (but they do move fast) which indicates that the ride wasn't going stale. I understand that the ride tweakage had everything to do with the movie, which doesn't really bother me either. (As much as we love SB castle, it was/is a giant ad for the 'Sleeping Beauty' film.)

I'm hoping that certain things added aren't permanent. It seems that where they placed the Johnny Depp room is a place that has changed a couple of times already. Maybe it's a cursed spot, like the desk where Murphy Brown's secretaries sat. No one will be permanent there...

Snowflake · 07-03-2006, 06:14 AM

Well, I guess I simply have to reserve any commentary until I board the boat at Lafitte's Landing. I do have to say that I'm grateful that Johnny does not make an appearence in the Jail scene. While I am of the opnion that Pirates probably needed tweaking only to repair an aging attraction, I'm on the fence about messing with the ride. But I can't form an opinion for myself until I ride it.

I think Euro's comment on moving from refurb and tweaking to NEW attractions is a great point. Let's hope the management is moving in that direction. I love the AA technology and think another really great AA themed E-ticket ride is in order. Just what that would be or be based on or imagineered, too early for me to speculate, I've not had tea yet this morning

CoasterMatt · 07-03-2006, 08:16 AM

I'm glad the World of Motion figures are gone.

As for "is there even a curse anymore?" - Davy Jones only mentions it in 3 of his 6 or 7 different clips and because of the silly spot they placed it, with any sort of boat back up - you get to hear it at least once...

The only thing of this rehab I really don't like is the music in the battle scene -but they change sound levels ALL over the place in this ride through the years, so I'm not too worried about that... After all, a big chunk of the music in the caves was missing for nearly 30 years.

Alex · 07-03-2006, 08:21 AM

According to the press materials the voices of Barbossa, Sparrow, and Davy Jones were done by Rush, Depp, and Nighy.

innerSpaceman · 07-03-2006, 08:24 AM

With all due respect to ML, whose intent this was not .... I hate when the "museum" card is played.

It's such a cheap shot. No one is complaining about change. Floating Madame Leota was one of the best changes ever! New Fantasyland - great example of fantastic change for the better. The new Space Mountain music - what an excellent change!

Please don't change the subject! People who are complaining about the changes made to Pirates are not complaining about change itself. But there's improvement and there's detraction. They don't have to be the same for everyone, but people know for themselves which they perceive in any given instance.

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GC - I always find voices defensible as ghosts. I don't know why I can accept an unseen ghostly choir more readily than an unseen ghostly orchestra. I just can. So this part was never a problem for me. I will admit, though, that - because the music was is so awesome, I never had much of a problem with an orchestra suddenly appearing at the treasure room.

Fact is though, that with new music after the first drop, new music after the second drop, old music at the treasure room and new music in the battle scene ... there's just too much frelling underscore for me to accept anything I'm seeing as "real."

CM: Huh? What music was missing in the caves? Oh, and I know Davy tells (some guests) about a curse on the way back up .... but does he say anything about it as it's about to happen??

MickeyLumbo · 07-03-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

With all due respect to ML, whose intent this was not .... I hate when the "museum" card is played.

It's such a cheap shot. No one is complaining about change. Floating Madame Leota was one of the best changes ever! New Fantasyland - great example of fantastic change for the better. The new Space Mountain music - what an excellent change!

Please don't change the subject! People who are complaining about the changes made to Pirates are not complaining about change itself. But there's improvement and there's detraction. They don't have to be the same for everyone, but people know for themselves which they perceive in any given instance.

now i get it. and the "museum card" should not have been used and was not needed.

honestly, for several days, i waited with high hopes that you would report back that you loved the changes. it kinda makes me sad that you aren't pleased.

Ponine · 07-03-2006, 09:06 AM

ML, do you know the date of the pic you posted?

MickeyLumbo · 07-03-2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ponine

ML, do you know the date of the pic you posted?

no, sorry... guessing by clothing and hairstyle, circa 1965'ish?

Ponine · 07-03-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MickeyLumbo

no, sorry... guessing by clothing and hairstyle, circa 1965'ish?

I was actually dating it a little earier. There's a full skirt in brown at the lower left...
But before I saw her, I was at '65 as well.

07-03-2006, 05:39 AM	#2
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	From the video I've seen, I really don't care much for the projection of Davey Jones either. But I love the waterfall effect. Pretty cool. I could have sworn that I heard that Depp and Rush did the voices for their AA's. :shrug: I would agree that Disneyland isn't a museum and shouldn't be. But tweaking rides that need tweaking is fine with me. Adjusting rides that are doing just fine, kind of worries me. I mean the lines for POTC are always long (but they do move fast) which indicates that the ride wasn't going stale. I understand that the ride tweakage had everything to do with the movie, which doesn't really bother me either. (As much as we love SB castle, it was/is a giant ad for the 'Sleeping Beauty' film.) I'm hoping that certain things added aren't permanent. It seems that where they placed the Johnny Depp room is a place that has changed a couple of times already. Maybe it's a cursed spot, like the desk where Murphy Brown's secretaries sat. No one will be permanent there...
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07-03-2006, 06:14 AM	#3
Snowflake lost in the fog Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 7,831	Well, I guess I simply have to reserve any commentary until I board the boat at Lafitte's Landing. I do have to say that I'm grateful that Johnny does not make an appearence in the Jail scene. While I am of the opnion that Pirates probably needed tweaking only to repair an aging attraction, I'm on the fence about messing with the ride. But I can't form an opinion for myself until I ride it. I think Euro's comment on moving from refurb and tweaking to NEW attractions is a great point. Let's hope the management is moving in that direction. I love the AA technology and think another really great AA themed E-ticket ride is in order. Just what that would be or be based on or imagineered, too early for me to speculate, I've not had tea yet this morning __________________ Be yourself; everyone else is already taken. - Oscar Wilde
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07-03-2006, 08:16 AM	#4
CoasterMatt BRAAAAAAAINS! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: One Step Beyond... Posts: 8,802	I'm glad the World of Motion figures are gone. As for "is there even a curse anymore?" - Davy Jones only mentions it in 3 of his 6 or 7 different clips and because of the silly spot they placed it, with any sort of boat back up - you get to hear it at least once... The only thing of this rehab I really don't like is the music in the battle scene -but they change sound levels ALL over the place in this ride through the years, so I'm not too worried about that... After all, a big chunk of the music in the caves was missing for nearly 30 years. __________________ Do you like my photography? Visit photosbymatt.tumblr.com to purchase prints!
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07-03-2006, 08:21 AM	#5
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	According to the press materials the voices of Barbossa, Sparrow, and Davy Jones were done by Rush, Depp, and Nighy.
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07-03-2006, 08:24 AM	#6
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	With all due respect to ML, whose intent this was not .... I hate when the "museum" card is played. It's such a cheap shot. No one is complaining about change. Floating Madame Leota was one of the best changes ever! New Fantasyland - great example of fantastic change for the better. The new Space Mountain music - what an excellent change! Please don't change the subject! People who are complaining about the changes made to Pirates are not complaining about change itself. But there's improvement and there's detraction. They don't have to be the same for everyone, but people know for themselves which they perceive in any given instance. * * * * * * * * * GC - I always find voices defensible as ghosts. I don't know why I can accept an unseen ghostly choir more readily than an unseen ghostly orchestra. I just can. So this part was never a problem for me. I will admit, though, that - because the music was is so awesome, I never had much of a problem with an orchestra suddenly appearing at the treasure room. Fact is though, that with new music after the first drop, new music after the second drop, old music at the treasure room and new music in the battle scene ... there's just too much frelling underscore for me to accept anything I'm seeing as "real." CM: Huh? What music was missing in the caves? Oh, and I know Davy tells (some guests) about a curse on the way back up .... but does he say anything about it as it's about to happen?? Last edited by innerSpaceman : 07-03-2006 at 08:32 AM.
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07-03-2006, 09:06 AM	#8
Ponine Virgin Ears Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,075	ML, do you know the date of the pic you posted? __________________ There's something strange, There's something wrong. I see a change - It's like when love dies.
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