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innerSpaceman · 11-20-2008, 11:09 AM

Interesting that Ebert's review mentions the Swedish vampire film Let the Right One In, which I recently heard RAVES about over Chinese lunch post-Nationwide Protest Rally last Saturday.

There's no Mormons in Sweden, are there? If not, and since the Swede film was officially GAY recommended ... I think I'll spend my vampire dollars on that one. Twilight, from the synopsis in Ebert's review, seems ... with apologies to Gemini Cricket ... completely gay.

Betty · 11-20-2008, 11:21 AM

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Interesting that Ebert's review mentions the Swedish vampire film Let the Right One In, which I recently heard RAVES about over Chinese lunch post-Nationwide Protest Rally last Saturday.

There's no Mormons in Sweden, are there? If not, and since the Swede film was officially GAY recommended ... I think I'll spend my vampire dollars on that one. Twilight, from the synopsis in Ebert's review, seems ... with apologies to Gemini Cricket ... completely gay.

I'll have to check out Let the Right One In. hmmmm... you think that's in English or will I be reading subtitles?

Gemini Cricket · 11-20-2008, 11:22 AM

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... with apologies to Gemini Cricket ... completely gay.

You can not have the goat that you're attempting to get from me.

innerSpaceman · 11-20-2008, 11:23 AM

Subtitles.

Downside for me, yeah. Upside? Maturity.

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You can not have the goat that you're attempting to get from me.

Baaaaaaaaah.

Betty · 11-20-2008, 11:25 AM

I can work with subtitles. Just read a little review of it. I'm intrigued.

Alex · 11-20-2008, 11:26 AM

There is a Mormon temple in Stockholm so I assume that there are at least three mormons in the country. But it seems unlikely they're making vampire films.

Gemini Cricket · 11-20-2008, 11:38 AM

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Though I have heard they stressed it harder than usual for Twilight.

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Did they stress it more because they thought the reviews would be bad?
I also noticed that when there is not much confidence in a movie, the filmmakers/studios don't have a lot of press screenings for it or give critics very little time to get a review out. I remember the Love Guru having zero reviews on rt.com until the Friday it was released.

Alex · 11-20-2008, 11:54 AM

Frequently that is what it means, and that is pretty much always how it is taken. But then it is in the review industries interest to take it that way.

But I don't think it is quite that simple. Sometimes I think they just feel that, even if they have a good movie, press reaction can't really do anything to help them. The people who are going to go on opening weekend were going to go anyway even if the reviews are good and so all reviews could do it possibly convince some people to not go (even the best movies have bad reviews). By the second weekend press reviews are almost completely irrelevant since everybody is then mostly relying on word of mouth from people they know personally who have seen it.

Then you also have the fact that different individual personalities running publicity simply like different levels of control or have certain strategies in mind.

For example, my screening invite for Milk includes this line and I don't think there is anyone doubting the quality of the movie:

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And lastly, we request your cooperation in not running/posting your reviews prior to Wednesday, November 26, 2008.

As for the number of screenings, I don't know if that is at all a reliable indicator of quality. I've seen great movies that only had one screening in the entire Bay Area and awful movies that have had four screenings each in five different towns. I think this is more a product of the marketing budget than the movie quality.

All of which isn't to say that Twilight doesn't suck and that the attempted embargo isn't a sign of that. It may. I just don't think it is a universal sign of that. Refusing to hold press screenings at all is probably a better indicator of real suck (though that has also increased in the last couple years into less sucky territory).

Gemini Cricket · 11-20-2008, 12:00 PM

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Refusing to hold press screenings at all is probably a better indicator of real suck (though that has also increased in the last couple years into less sucky territory).

Like Bangkok Dangerous and Snakes on a Plane. (Those 2 I got from a quick Google search.)

Alex · 11-20-2008, 12:44 PM

Yeah, and I'd say that Bangkok Express is a good example of how refusing to hold any screenings is expanding beyond the more traditional truly execrable movies.

It isn't a good movie but it also isn't a completely awful movie.

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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Interesting that Ebert's review mentions the Swedish vampire film Let the Right One In, which I recently heard RAVES about over Chinese lunch post-Nationwide Protest Rally last Saturday. There's no Mormons in Sweden, are there? If not, and since the Swede film was officially GAY recommended ... I think I'll spend my vampire dollars on that one. Twilight, from the synopsis in Ebert's review, seems ... with apologies to Gemini Cricket ... completely gay.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	There is a Mormon temple in Stockholm so I assume that there are at least three mormons in the country. But it seems unlikely they're making vampire films.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Yeah, and I'd say that Bangkok Express is a good example of how refusing to hold any screenings is expanding beyond the more traditional truly execrable movies. It isn't a good movie but it also isn't a completely awful movie.
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