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JWBear · 02-06-2009, 01:36 PM

I'm totally serious. I think he’s a member (perhaps the last surviving one) of the island’s original four toed inhabitants. Here's why:

It’s been confirmed now that Richard is very old – perhaps immortal. None of the rest of the “others” has shown that trait.

He seems more connected to the island than even Ben or John.

He’s given a great deal deference by the rest of the “others” – including even Ben. Hell, sometimes Ben seems to be in awe of him.

sleepyjeff · 02-06-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

I'm totally serious. I think he’s a member (perhaps the last surviving one) of the island’s original four toed inhabitants. Here's why:

It’s been confirmed now that Richard is very old – perhaps immortal. None of the rest of the “others” has shown that trait.

He seems more connected to the island than even Ben or John.

He’s given a great deal deference by the rest of the “others” – including even Ben. Hell, sometimes Ben seems to be in awe of him.

That's mostly true except Ben never seemed to give him all that much deference though. On more than a few occasions he was barking orders at Richard...in fact, he showed more respect to Jack than he did to Richard imho.

Also, a young Widmore didn't seem too keen on following direct orders given to him by Richard(when told to put the gun down, Richard had to physically remove the gun from the immature Other).

SzczerbiakManiac · 02-06-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Ben seems to be in awe of him.

Well, he is freakin' hot!

I have lusted after Nestor Carbonell since I first saw him on Suddenly Susan.

scaeagles · 02-12-2009, 08:57 AM

Don't really know what to say except that next week looks like it'll be fun!

Cadaverous Pallor · 02-12-2009, 09:07 AM

Dude, Jin and Danielle, how awesome was that?!

I'd forgotten about the whole "sickness" thing, and seeing the guy point a gun at his wife and unborn child....yow. Perhaps they'd been converted to Others?

Makes me want to go back and find the moment when Danielle meets Jin in the first season. Seriously, after all that, she should recognize him.

Cadaverous Pallor · 02-12-2009, 09:14 AM

For the first time, I decided to visit lostpedia without being linked there. Reading Danielle's page it's amazing how many tiny loose ends I'd forgotten about, and how they did refer to things she said in the first season with this 1988 flashback.

Ghoulish Delight · 02-12-2009, 09:31 AM

So now I'm guessing that the "Other" woman in the 40s that Daniel said looked familiar is Charolette's mom.

bewitched · 02-13-2009, 01:43 AM

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I also don't think that the meeting between Desmond and Widmore in London was by chance... and I think we're going to see that Daniel's mother is the same woman who sold Desmond the engagement ring... and that she was in Oxford but is now in LA.

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Who is the chick "Ellie" that held the gun on Daniel (when he was going to disarm the bomb) that he kept saying looked very familiar?

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So now I'm guessing that the "Other" woman in the 40s that Daniel said looked familiar is Charolette's mom.

OMG, Ellie is Daniel's mom, Eloise Hawking (pre-Ben)! That's why Daniel said his mother can help save Charlotte-- because she knows how to find the island. Holy crap this gets confusing...I love it!

I think that also points to what JWB was getting at, I think Richard is the puppet master (since he controlled the "Others" when Eloise was there and obviously, IMO, is the one who carries the secrets of the island, like how to get on and off of it).

Right now, my 2 candidates for Jacob are Richard or Jack.

On another note, something that's been bothering me...

We were told (more or less) that Oceanic 815 was brought down because of the magnetic field generated when Desmond was late punching in the numbers at the Swan station, right? BUT, obviously, there was some reason that flight was brought down otherwise, what with all of the people linked together and with the island....So, which is it? Or was that just a plot device that had no real meaning (which doesn't happen very often on Lost)? I mean, if the island wanted them all there, couldn't it have just made the plane crash (like by generating a magnetic field on it's own without needing the intercession of a human)?

bewitched · 02-13-2009, 09:03 AM

I've been wondering a lot more about Daniel (not sleeping+obsessing). He's an original other, i.e. his mother was there before Dharma ever was and didn't Charlotte say that the man who told her never to come back was old (before she said it was him)? Also, Daniel has to be much older (if indeed Ellie and Eloise are the same people). If the flash to the bomb was, say, 1945, Ellie was about 25ish? Daniel would likely have been born before she was forty, so 1960 or so. He would have to be about 45 or 50. I don't know what, or if this means anything though.

I also think that "original" others can come and go as they please and time jump without ill effect but I wonder if they shift between "times" instead of actually traveling. In other words, they are making parallel time jumps when they appear in say, California, rather than linear ones. How else could they get off of the island and to the U.S. before outsiders came (like when Locke was a child)?

Cadaverous Pallor · 02-13-2009, 04:48 PM

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If the flash to the bomb was, say, 1945, Ellie was about 25ish?

Richard told Locke the year, it was 1954.

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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	For the first time, I decided to visit lostpedia without being linked there. Reading Danielle's page it's amazing how many tiny loose ends I'd forgotten about, and how they did refer to things she said in the first season with this 1988 flashback. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	So now I'm guessing that the "Other" woman in the 40s that Daniel said looked familiar is Charolette's mom. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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bewitched 101% Yummy! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I know Kung Fu. Posts: 1,413	I've been wondering a lot more about Daniel (not sleeping+obsessing). He's an original other, i.e. his mother was there before Dharma ever was and didn't Charlotte say that the man who told her never to come back was old (before she said it was him)? Also, Daniel has to be much older (if indeed Ellie and Eloise are the same people). If the flash to the bomb was, say, 1945, Ellie was about 25ish? Daniel would likely have been born before she was forty, so 1960 or so. He would have to be about 45 or 50. I don't know what, or if this means anything though. I also think that "original" others can come and go as they please and time jump without ill effect but I wonder if they shift between "times" instead of actually traveling. In other words, they are making parallel time jumps when they appear in say, California, rather than linear ones. How else could they get off of the island and to the U.S. before outsiders came (like when Locke was a child)? __________________ ~Whitney Wondering about the future of Ellington Woodard's punk@ss sh!t. Last edited by bewitched : 02-13-2009 at 09:32 AM.
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