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LSPoorEeyorick · 06-30-2008, 01:23 PM

Obviously Pixar brings out people's strong tastes. They're very specific movies with very specific voices; it's no wonder one over another appeals to different people. To me, Brad Bird's movies have never touched me as emotionally as Stanton's. It's a clear, clear winner. While I enjoy Ratatouille, Incredibles, and Giant, I have to admit: each of them leaves me a little bit cold.* None of Stanton's ever have. My top Pixar choices would be:

1: Finding Nemo/Wall-E (tie)
2: Toy Story 2 (if you think it's bad, maybe take another look, there's a lot of heart.)
3: Toy Story
4: Ratatouille
5: Incredibles
6: Monster's Inc
7: Cars
8: Bug's Life

I really think the list is going to vary highly for everyone.

*cold in comparison with the higher films on my list. Certainly they kick the asses of most films being made these days.

Gemini Cricket · 06-30-2008, 01:30 PM

I really liked the dialogue in Ratatouille, which is why it was higher up the list than Wall-E for me. But I was thinking about how much Wall-E conveyed without using dialogue. That's quite an accomplishment. I also think that Wall-E is the first environment that Pixar created that I would not want to live in or visit.

Ghoulish Delight · 06-30-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

2: Toy Story 2 (if you think it's bad, maybe take another look, there's a lot of heart.)

Meh, I've seen it several times (more than I've seen the first) and I think I like it a little less each time.

My Pixar list is an ever-morphing beast, but currently it would look something like:

1. Ratatouille
2. WALL E
3. Nemo
4. Monster's Inc.
5. Cars
6. Incredibles
7. Toy Story
8. Bug's Life
9. Toy Story 2

the two in bold are likely to ping back and forth depending on my mood, and the 3 in italics are highly unstable in their position and definitely flip around on a whim.

As I said before, Stanton's got the lead in raw numbers (which is an unfair fight seeing as he's got more credits than Bird, both in general and at Pixar) and that does speak to some amount of admirable consistency from him, but when Bird gets it right, he outshines Stanton in my eyes. If I were to put Iron Giant in there, just for kicks, it'd settle in between the #1&#2 spots.

flippyshark · 06-30-2008, 01:43 PM

Gosh, it's hard to rank them as the list grows longer and the films diversify. So, here is an arbitrary measure.

Pixar Movies That Made Flippyshark Cry Like a Weenie:
(in roughly ascending order from least to most blubbery I got on first viewing)

- Cars
- Toy Story
- Toy Story 2
- Wall-E
- Monsters, Inc.

So, pretty subjective, and that doesn't necessarily make these my favorites. (Though, Monsters is my number one still.) Ratatouille is obviously a major achievement, and one I will revisit often. Both Toy Stories were wonderful, and obviously moving, but they are on my "don't need to revisit soon" list. Nemo, Incredibles - terrific entertainment that will keep on giving, and I can safely watch them in mixed company without keeping hankies nearby. Bug's Life - meh - admirable but I think I can go without it from here on out.

Gemini Cricket · 06-30-2008, 01:46 PM

flippyshark - what made you sob during Cars? For me, it was a dry eye film for me.

I sobbed during The Incredibles. The whole Holly Hunter "I'm so proud of you" speech really got me.

The ending of Monsters Inc gets me every time.

Finding Nemo - Dory's "I'm home" speech is weep material, totally.

LSPoorEeyorick · 06-30-2008, 01:45 PM

See for me, it'd end up below Bug's Life. But then, personal taste, it's all about personal taste. I see Bird's technical skill and action chops, but his emotional moments kind of lack... emotion... for me, at least. And I personally think technical skills and action are worthless if it doesn't move me. Not that it doesn't move me at all, just that it doesn't move me as much as, say, Stanton. I can see how others would have different preferences, though.

LSPoorEeyorick · 06-30-2008, 01:48 PM

Ooh! The crying is a good measure.

Most blubbery > least

Wall-E
Finding Nemo
Toy Story 2
Monsters Inc
Cars

LSPoorEeyorick · 06-30-2008, 01:48 PM

Interesting, GC - Cars made me cry, but Incredibles didn't, not whatsoever. (Love that score, though.)

Gemini Cricket · 06-30-2008, 01:50 PM

Wall-E got me several times. Mostly when she sees how he took care of her.

Tom · 06-30-2008, 01:52 PM

I will support my wife on this one. Sort of. Toy Story 2 remains my favorite Pixar film to date. I also enjoy The Incredibles and Finding Nemo somewhat less than most (standard disclaimer about general Pixar quality applies).

My list would be something like:

1. Toy Story 2
2. WALL-E
3. Monsters, Inc.
4. Ratatouille
5. Cars
6. Toy Story
7. Finding Nemo
8. The Incredibles
9. A Bug's Life

06-30-2008, 01:43 PM	#4
flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	Gosh, it's hard to rank them as the list grows longer and the films diversify. So, here is an arbitrary measure. Pixar Movies That Made Flippyshark Cry Like a Weenie: (in roughly ascending order from least to most blubbery I got on first viewing) - Cars - Toy Story - Toy Story 2 - Wall-E - Monsters, Inc. So, pretty subjective, and that doesn't necessarily make these my favorites. (Though, Monsters is my number one still.) Ratatouille is obviously a major achievement, and one I will revisit often. Both Toy Stories were wonderful, and obviously moving, but they are on my "don't need to revisit soon" list. Nemo, Incredibles - terrific entertainment that will keep on giving, and I can safely watch them in mixed company without keeping hankies nearby. Bug's Life - meh - admirable but I think I can go without it from here on out.
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06-30-2008, 01:46 PM	#5
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	flippyshark - what made you sob during Cars? For me, it was a dry eye film for me. I sobbed during The Incredibles. The whole Holly Hunter "I'm so proud of you" speech really got me. The ending of Monsters Inc gets me every time. Finding Nemo - Dory's "I'm home" speech is weep material, totally.
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06-30-2008, 01:45 PM	#6
LSPoorEeyorick scribblin' Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in the moment Posts: 3,872	See for me, it'd end up below Bug's Life. But then, personal taste, it's all about personal taste. I see Bird's technical skill and action chops, but his emotional moments kind of lack... emotion... for me, at least. And I personally think technical skills and action are worthless if it doesn't move me. Not that it doesn't move me at all, just that it doesn't move me as much as, say, Stanton. I can see how others would have different preferences, though.
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06-30-2008, 01:48 PM	#7
LSPoorEeyorick scribblin' Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in the moment Posts: 3,872	Ooh! The crying is a good measure. Most blubbery > least Wall-E Finding Nemo Toy Story 2 Monsters Inc Cars
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LSPoorEeyorick scribblin' Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in the moment Posts: 3,872	Interesting, GC - Cars made me cry, but Incredibles didn't, not whatsoever. (Love that score, though.)
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06-30-2008, 01:23 PM	#1
LSPoorEeyorick scribblin' Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in the moment Posts: 3,872	Obviously Pixar brings out people's strong tastes. They're very specific movies with very specific voices; it's no wonder one over another appeals to different people. To me, Brad Bird's movies have never touched me as emotionally as Stanton's. It's a clear, clear winner. While I enjoy Ratatouille, Incredibles, and Giant, I have to admit: each of them leaves me a little bit cold.* None of Stanton's ever have. My top Pixar choices would be: 1: Finding Nemo/Wall-E (tie) 2: Toy Story 2 (if you think it's bad, maybe take another look, there's a lot of heart.) 3: Toy Story 4: Ratatouille 5: Incredibles 6: Monster's Inc 7: Cars 8: Bug's Life I really think the list is going to vary highly for everyone. *cold in comparison with the higher films on my list. Certainly they kick the asses of most films being made these days.
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06-30-2008, 01:30 PM	#2
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I really liked the dialogue in Ratatouille, which is why it was higher up the list than Wall-E for me. But I was thinking about how much Wall-E conveyed without using dialogue. That's quite an accomplishment. I also think that Wall-E is the first environment that Pixar created that I would not want to live in or visit.
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06-30-2008, 01:50 PM	#9
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Wall-E got me several times. Mostly when she sees how he took care of her.
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06-30-2008, 01:52 PM	#10
Tom Valued member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 541	I will support my wife on this one. Sort of. Toy Story 2 remains my favorite Pixar film to date. I also enjoy The Incredibles and Finding Nemo somewhat less than most (standard disclaimer about general Pixar quality applies). My list would be something like: 1. Toy Story 2 2. WALL-E 3. Monsters, Inc. 4. Ratatouille 5. Cars 6. Toy Story 7. Finding Nemo 8. The Incredibles 9. A Bug's Life
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