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Ghoulish Delight · 05-24-2010, 12:25 AM

I was on board for a lot. I'll admit to getting choked up at some.

Minus points for the 6 seasons of sloppy writing that forced them to do the 2hr pre-show to get everyone back on track. But they win a few of those points back for it being a fairly decent recap and a decent save.

Minus a few more points for the ending. Slapping a "coexist" bumper sticker on a big shiny crucifix does not nondenominational make. Bleh. I'd have been fine with the religiosity if they hadn't leaned do heavily on such purely Christian elements.

But all that said, I'm not disappointed with the whole package. They did a good job of reminding me why I gave a crap about the relationships, and making me give a crap about them again. Again, I would have been happier had they not made me forget in the first place, and I didn't love everything about how they wrapped them up, but it was enough for me to give them credit for creating some good story arcs.

And I'll cede CP's point about the crappy origins episode. Jack is the protector because Jacob said he is. Jacob was the protector because Jacob's mom was the protector. Jacob's mom was the protector because she was told so by the previous protector, and that previous protector told by the previous...

Didn't blow my mind, but didn't leave me angry. Plus, I can't wait for the "Hurley and Ben" animated series.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 · 05-24-2010, 12:48 AM

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First reaction: A Season 6 finale that answered all the questions raised in the subplot of season 6. Hmmm. Emotionally satisfying, but I can't help but remember the whole argument during season 1 about the island being Limbo. So the big answer was that the flash-sideways is limbo... but what's the island? Intellectually disappointing.

Words outta my mouth

I do wonder if they planned for the Island to be Limbo and then were thrown by that being the obvious guess.

I have problems with it but found some emotional satisfaction. I suppose I like that the alt reality was the weird and the weird Island was the real. Heh. Ut there were many inconsistencies and odd ends tied (Sayid's person was Shannon? Really?).

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 · 05-24-2010, 01:06 AM

Also, I can't believe I never saw the joke in Christian Shepards name. And, GD, big fat laugh at the coexist sticker on the cross remark.

Gemini Cricket · 05-24-2010, 01:37 AM

The big stained glass window with all of the religious symbols was interesting. I know for a fact that the church/chapel/whatever at Sacred Hearts Academy does not have that window in it. Catholic all girls school. My older sister went to that school. The other day, I passed by the school and noticed all the trailers. I said to myself, hmm that's a lot of trailers, it must be a big shoot. Yep, there was a reason all the trailers were there. They shot around the clock that day. They had huge lights outside that made it look like sunlight outside... at around 11pm at night. lol

sleepyjeff · 05-24-2010, 01:48 AM

Last week we find Miles and Richard took several days(half a season, anyway) to "find" Newotherton, but this week they expect everyone to join them over on a whole other island in one hour??????

Are you freaking kidding me......the writing on this show got exponentially
worse every single episode

Still not sure how I feel about the ending.........seems more like they didn't even answer the questions they set up this year, let alone years ago to any sort of real satisfaction.........but, like others have said, emotionally, it did sort of work, even though intellectually I feel sorta robbed.

scaeagles · 05-24-2010, 05:02 AM

Loved the episode up until the Christian/Jack scene in the church. Was a little disappointed that it was Kate that killed Flocke, but that's OK.

So who wasn't in the church at the end? Was it only original losties who were? And no one from the tail section? No Ana Lucia, no Mr. Eko.

So why did Ben shoose not to go?

Alex · 05-24-2010, 05:56 AM

Now that it's over I can finally start watching. I'm thinking maybe I'll do it Memento style and watch in reverse order.

RStar · 05-24-2010, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Loved the episode up until the Christian/Jack scene in the church. Was a little disappointed that it was Kate that killed Flocke, but that's OK.

So who wasn't in the church at the end? Was it only original losties who were? And no one from the tail section? No Ana Lucia, no Mr. Eko.

So why did Ben shoose not to go?

Micheal and Walt weren't there, even though there were reports of Walt being on the set. Although Vincent the dog showed up by Jack's side on the island.

In case someone would read this thread before seeing it:

Spoiler:

Moonliner · 05-24-2010, 06:52 AM

So to sum up for those of us that only watched the first two or three episodes of season 1...

Spoiler:

innerSpaceman · 05-24-2010, 07:26 AM

I rather liked it, and not just because I was right all along.

In that, the show was about a limbo of sorts. It was clearly about that in the first season, and clearly about that in the last. That they shifted the "location" of limbo from the island to a sideways universe does not change the story --- especially since they only thing they were able to "wrap up" was the limbo storyline -- while there was no wrap-up whatsoever of The Island.

That didn't bother me. I don't much care which question is "answered" and which mystery is left unsolved. I like that the finale engendered a lot of conversation and theorizing at Heidi and Tom's most excellent Last Lost party. And unlike some of the recent episodes that were supposed to be emotionally affective (but did not hit me as such), this one packed a punch of strong feelings for me.

I was a little meh about the demise of anti-locke, and of course revealing "the light" to be yet another set-piece ("the cork") was no revelation at all. But these were quibbles in an otherwise rather fine episode. The Christian religiosity certainly didn't bug me - - limbo and purgatory are essentially Christian concepts.

Um, one question occurred to me - and maybe I just missed it: Did they show what became of Island Desmond after he was pulled out of the Cork Cave? I mean, Ben and Hugo team up for Lost, the Animated Series. Sawyer, Kate, Claire, Richard, Miles and Lapides escape on the plane. Jack dies. Did they ever show Desmond again? Did he just wander off into the woods? Did he have a delayed reaction time-shift that he was expecting?

I think the limbo matrix co-created by the Losties would have seemed more plausible if it was just the tight group of Losties who had been through so much together. Bringing in Boon and Shannon and the neighbor's cat was a little silly, imo. So was Sayid and Shannon getting together for the afterlife, as if she were the love of his soul, instead of the quick fling they once shared (which, had it not been for their touch-flash, I would not have even remembered!)

Quibbles and bits. I liked it. Christian Shepard's final appearance was a bit more powerful, experiencing it with two other people who have recently lost a parent. The writers couldn't have scripted that, but I think it infused the ending with a certain oomph for us.

A surprising thumbs-up from me.

05-24-2010, 12:25 AM	#1421
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I was on board for a lot. I'll admit to getting choked up at some. Minus points for the 6 seasons of sloppy writing that forced them to do the 2hr pre-show to get everyone back on track. But they win a few of those points back for it being a fairly decent recap and a decent save. Minus a few more points for the ending. Slapping a "coexist" bumper sticker on a big shiny crucifix does not nondenominational make. Bleh. I'd have been fine with the religiosity if they hadn't leaned do heavily on such purely Christian elements. But all that said, I'm not disappointed with the whole package. They did a good job of reminding me why I gave a crap about the relationships, and making me give a crap about them again. Again, I would have been happier had they not made me forget in the first place, and I didn't love everything about how they wrapped them up, but it was enough for me to give them credit for creating some good story arcs. And I'll cede CP's point about the crappy origins episode. Jack is the protector because Jacob said he is. Jacob was the protector because Jacob's mom was the protector. Jacob's mom was the protector because she was told so by the previous protector, and that previous protector told by the previous... Didn't blow my mind, but didn't leave me angry. Plus, I can't wait for the "Hurley and Ben" animated series. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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05-24-2010, 01:06 AM	#1423
Eliza Hodgkins 1812 Sputnik Sweetheart Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Beach Posts: 2,685	Also, I can't believe I never saw the joke in Christian Shepards name. And, GD, big fat laugh at the coexist sticker on the cross remark.
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05-24-2010, 01:37 AM	#1424
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	The big stained glass window with all of the religious symbols was interesting. I know for a fact that the church/chapel/whatever at Sacred Hearts Academy does not have that window in it. Catholic all girls school. My older sister went to that school. The other day, I passed by the school and noticed all the trailers. I said to myself, hmm that's a lot of trailers, it must be a big shoot. Yep, there was a reason all the trailers were there. They shot around the clock that day. They had huge lights outside that made it look like sunlight outside... at around 11pm at night. lol
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05-24-2010, 01:48 AM	#1425
sleepyjeff Go Hawks Go! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parkrose Posts: 2,632	Last week we find Miles and Richard took several days(half a season, anyway) to "find" Newotherton, but this week they expect everyone to join them over on a whole other island in one hour?????? Are you freaking kidding me......the writing on this show got exponentially worse every single episode Still not sure how I feel about the ending.........seems more like they didn't even answer the questions they set up this year, let alone years ago to any sort of real satisfaction.........but, like others have said, emotionally, it did sort of work, even though intellectually I feel sorta robbed. __________________ River Guardian-less
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05-24-2010, 05:02 AM	#1426
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Loved the episode up until the Christian/Jack scene in the church. Was a little disappointed that it was Kate that killed Flocke, but that's OK. So who wasn't in the church at the end? Was it only original losties who were? And no one from the tail section? No Ana Lucia, no Mr. Eko. So why did Ben shoose not to go?
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05-24-2010, 05:56 AM	#1427
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Now that it's over I can finally start watching. I'm thinking maybe I'll do it Memento style and watch in reverse order.
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05-24-2010, 06:52 AM	#1429
Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	So to sum up for those of us that only watched the first two or three episodes of season 1... Spoiler: Everyone died in the plane crash and the island is purgatory? __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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05-24-2010, 07:26 AM	#1430
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I rather liked it, and not just because I was right all along. In that, the show was about a limbo of sorts. It was clearly about that in the first season, and clearly about that in the last. That they shifted the "location" of limbo from the island to a sideways universe does not change the story --- especially since they only thing they were able to "wrap up" was the limbo storyline -- while there was no wrap-up whatsoever of The Island. That didn't bother me. I don't much care which question is "answered" and which mystery is left unsolved. I like that the finale engendered a lot of conversation and theorizing at Heidi and Tom's most excellent Last Lost party. And unlike some of the recent episodes that were supposed to be emotionally affective (but did not hit me as such), this one packed a punch of strong feelings for me. I was a little meh about the demise of anti-locke, and of course revealing "the light" to be yet another set-piece ("the cork") was no revelation at all. But these were quibbles in an otherwise rather fine episode. The Christian religiosity certainly didn't bug me - - limbo and purgatory are essentially Christian concepts. Um, one question occurred to me - and maybe I just missed it: Did they show what became of Island Desmond after he was pulled out of the Cork Cave? I mean, Ben and Hugo team up for Lost, the Animated Series. Sawyer, Kate, Claire, Richard, Miles and Lapides escape on the plane. Jack dies. Did they ever show Desmond again? Did he just wander off into the woods? Did he have a delayed reaction time-shift that he was expecting? I think the limbo matrix co-created by the Losties would have seemed more plausible if it was just the tight group of Losties who had been through so much together. Bringing in Boon and Shannon and the neighbor's cat was a little silly, imo. So was Sayid and Shannon getting together for the afterlife, as if she were the love of his soul, instead of the quick fling they once shared (which, had it not been for their touch-flash, I would not have even remembered!) Quibbles and bits. I liked it. Christian Shepard's final appearance was a bit more powerful, experiencing it with two other people who have recently lost a parent. The writers couldn't have scripted that, but I think it infused the ending with a certain oomph for us. A surprising thumbs-up from me.
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