Miscellaneous Movie Musings the Sequel - Page 145

innerSpaceman · 05-09-2012, 09:54 AM

I haven't even seen Transformers II or III, so I'm perfectly willing to accept that Whedon did a much better job than Bay of making a huge alien machine fight scene over a major metropolis clear and interesting.

It's simply that, thanks to those 3 Transformers movies pushing that kind of thing permanently past the Shark-Jump point, that kind of thing will - I daresay - forevermore be a trope of derision. It was done well, but what I'm criticizing is that it was done at all.

And I'm hardly the only person to yawn over the 23rd multi-hero, huge alien machine invasion of major world city destruction. It's really a shame if someone does something well that's been done to death, but there you have it.

And I concede I'm not seeing something about this movie that most audiences and critics are seeing. But I've conversed with other people who didn't like it, and I've read some stinging reviews I agree with (most notably the L.A. Weekly review, which in my opinion is spot on in every respect.)

I'm not an ultra-hater of Titanic, for example, but is that a good film simply because it's so popular? I think most reasonable people can glimpse the point of the haters of that particular uber-popular movie. But if no one can see mine about The Avengers, so be it. I'm not stating my opinions to bait anyone. It's just that I'm a loudmouth.

Snowflake · 05-09-2012, 10:20 AM

Well, all I can say is you guys are making me want to see The Avengers. Job well done.

I came late to the Buffy and Angel love, so I expect I will enjoy this.

mousepod · 05-09-2012, 10:23 AM

I hear what you're saying. As a long-time comic reader, I couldn't imagine an Avengers movie that didn't climax in a massive battle scene. The Jack Kirby-era Marvel comics were famous for that. And ever since Whedon was announced as the director, he's been vocal about his love for Jim Starlin Marvel comics - which added even more sci-fi to the mix. If you were surprised by the ending of the movie, or saw it as a trope brought on by Transformers, then I can see how you'd be let down.

Personally, I'm looking forward to something like this in Avengers 2:

Moonliner · 05-10-2012, 06:45 PM

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I hear what you're saying. As a long-time comic reader

I'm sure I could Google this, but I wonder are the Marvel movies creating a new golden age of comic book sales?

innerSpaceman · 05-09-2012, 10:37 AM

I think your criticisms of Star Trek were accurate, btw. All I could come up with to counter those Spock-logical points was that the film somehow captured the nearly indefinable spirit and feeling of Star Trek. Well, earlier in this thread, you said The Avengers movie captured what you felt was the spirit of The Avengers.

Perhaps that's just it. I have no idea what the spirit of The Avengers is. I never read any of the comics, and I hated the Saturday morning TV show as a kid. So I guess I'm just not getting it. Even so, of course I expected the multi-character, giant machine alien invasion major city destruction battle at the end. It's de rigour and it was telegraphed in all the trailers. It's just I was not engaged with anything leading up to that, so I just rolled my eyes for fourteen minutes while the battle unfolded.

I'm sincerely glad if fans of The Avengers got what they were looking forward to from this movie. Really I am. I know I'm not a fan of The Avengers, per se, but I did enjoy 3 of the 4 films leading up to this, so I hoped I'd really dig The Avengers movie. Though I did not, it truly pleases me that true fans apparently did.

Moonliner · 05-10-2012, 06:43 PM

See? Now this is why the Internet is great. I found a single poster of every bong girl ever . Many happy memories....

Ghoulish Delight · 05-10-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

See? Now this is why the Internet is great. I found a single poster of every bong girl ever . Many happy memories....

Not as advertised. That would have been a very large poster.

RStar · 05-14-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

See? Now this is why the Internet is great. I found a single poster of every bong girl ever . Many happy memories....

Dang, I expected to see girls with bongs.....

Moonliner · 05-14-2012, 03:56 PM

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Dang, I expected to see girls with bongs.....

Ahh. I see. Now I get the earlier replies that had me somewhat puzzled...

Kevy Baby · 05-10-2012, 09:21 PM

I never thought of Moonie as a partier.

05-09-2012, 09:54 AM	#1
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I haven't even seen Transformers II or III, so I'm perfectly willing to accept that Whedon did a much better job than Bay of making a huge alien machine fight scene over a major metropolis clear and interesting. It's simply that, thanks to those 3 Transformers movies pushing that kind of thing permanently past the Shark-Jump point, that kind of thing will - I daresay - forevermore be a trope of derision. It was done well, but what I'm criticizing is that it was done at all. And I'm hardly the only person to yawn over the 23rd multi-hero, huge alien machine invasion of major world city destruction. It's really a shame if someone does something well that's been done to death, but there you have it. And I concede I'm not seeing something about this movie that most audiences and critics are seeing. But I've conversed with other people who didn't like it, and I've read some stinging reviews I agree with (most notably the L.A. Weekly review, which in my opinion is spot on in every respect.) I'm not an ultra-hater of Titanic, for example, but is that a good film simply because it's so popular? I think most reasonable people can glimpse the point of the haters of that particular uber-popular movie. But if no one can see mine about The Avengers, so be it. I'm not stating my opinions to bait anyone. It's just that I'm a loudmouth.
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05-09-2012, 10:20 AM	#2
Snowflake lost in the fog Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 7,831	Well, all I can say is you guys are making me want to see The Avengers. Job well done. I came late to the Buffy and Angel love, so I expect I will enjoy this. __________________ Be yourself; everyone else is already taken. - Oscar Wilde
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05-09-2012, 10:23 AM	#3
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	I hear what you're saying. As a long-time comic reader, I couldn't imagine an Avengers movie that didn't climax in a massive battle scene. The Jack Kirby-era Marvel comics were famous for that. And ever since Whedon was announced as the director, he's been vocal about his love for Jim Starlin Marvel comics - which added even more sci-fi to the mix. If you were surprised by the ending of the movie, or saw it as a trope brought on by Transformers, then I can see how you'd be let down. Personally, I'm looking forward to something like this in Avengers 2: __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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05-09-2012, 10:37 AM	#5
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I think your criticisms of Star Trek were accurate, btw. All I could come up with to counter those Spock-logical points was that the film somehow captured the nearly indefinable spirit and feeling of Star Trek. Well, earlier in this thread, you said The Avengers movie captured what you felt was the spirit of The Avengers. Perhaps that's just it. I have no idea what the spirit of The Avengers is. I never read any of the comics, and I hated the Saturday morning TV show as a kid. So I guess I'm just not getting it. Even so, of course I expected the multi-character, giant machine alien invasion major city destruction battle at the end. It's de rigour and it was telegraphed in all the trailers. It's just I was not engaged with anything leading up to that, so I just rolled my eyes for fourteen minutes while the battle unfolded. I'm sincerely glad if fans of The Avengers got what they were looking forward to from this movie. Really I am. I know I'm not a fan of The Avengers, per se, but I did enjoy 3 of the 4 films leading up to this, so I hoped I'd really dig The Avengers movie. Though I did not, it truly pleases me that true fans apparently did.
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05-10-2012, 06:43 PM	#6
Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	See? Now this is why the Internet is great. I found a single poster of every bong girl ever . Many happy memories.... __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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05-10-2012, 09:21 PM	#10
Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	I never thought of Moonie as a partier. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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