The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Nephythys]

I guess I would feel there was a point- except for the fact that it is not just the right or the conservatives that feel outrage about it- or who think it was an asinine insulting thing to say.

This is not ME misinterpreting something- or if so I am in vast company.

[SacTown Chronic]

If Kerry apologizes for this, I'm going to kick him in the nuts if I ever get close enough to him.


Asinine, Neph? Does that mean you preach military service over education to your children? Or are Kerry's words closer to what you say in private than you care to admit?

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

If Kerry apologizes for this, I'm going to kick him in the nuts if I ever get close enough to him.


Asinine, Neph? Does that mean you preach military service over education to your children? Or are Kerry's words closer to what you say in private than you care to admit?

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[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

This is not ME misinterpreting something- or if so I am in vast company.

No one has yet been able to communicate exactly what the offensive interpretation is.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

This is not ME misinterpreting something- or if so I am in vast company.

This IS you misinterpreting something, and you ARE in vast company. Why can you not read the remarks as stated, in context, and make your own interpretation.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

This IS you misinterpreting something, and you ARE in vast company. Why can you not read the remarks as stated, in context, and make your own interpretation.

Why go to the trouble of making up your own mind when you can blindly parrot right wing talking points? Much easier.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

This IS you misinterpreting something, and you ARE in vast company. Why can you not read the remarks as stated, in context, and make your own interpretation.

I have- did before it was ever posted here.

This is my main frustration with people here- some of you see perfectly fit to tell me what I think, what I've done or not done- how I misunderstand, misspoke- whatever- and you lay it at my feet no matter what I say is my intent, what I have done, what I personally think.

This guy makes an ass of himself- and you spin yourself into dervishes finding ways to say "he did not mean it that way" - it's everyone elses problem- not his. He is not responsible for the reactions- or for upsetting anyone.

THAT has been the main thing that has undermined my respect for certain people and their tactics- it's only used when it suits their own bias.

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

THAT has been the main thing that has undermined my respect for certain people and their tactics- it's only used when it suits their own bias.

Is there anyone in politics who this doesn't apply to? I mean, isn't that the crux of politicing? Who do you think is not being self-serving in today's political arena?

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Is there anyone in politics who this doesn't apply to? I mean, isn't that the crux of politicing? Who do you think is not being self-serving in today's political arena?

No one-

I was mainly referring to people here. It disappoints me to see the double standard.

I say something. Someone else takes my meaning and intent wrongly and gets upset. I say I did not mean it that way- and the predominant response is "you have to apologize and correct your way of saying things- it is not our problem." Putting it on me to take responsibility for their feelings and my words no matter my intent.

But take what Kerry said- same issue- and they are blaming everyone BUT him. It is everyone BUT him who misinterpreted. Other people created outrage where they was none- because he did not mean anything by it. Kerry does not have to correct himself, apologize or take responsibility for his own words- it's everyone else who has to correct themselves.

It's hypocritical, a clear double standard and I think shows a willingness to excuse people who share their ideaology but to slam and accuse those who don't- no matter their intent.

I'm sure it can cut both ways- but for now I am seeing it from this side of the fence and I find it sad.

[Scrooge McSam]

Get out your kickers, Sac.