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Alex · 06-08-2010, 10:27 AM

Looking at NBA #1 picks,

Last years #1 pick (Blake Griffin) hasn't yet played because he broke his foot before the start of the season. He's expected to return next season however.

Before that the last #1 pick to never play in the NBA was Gene Melchiorre in 1951. He never played because he admitted to participating in a college point shaving scandal (after the draft) and the NBA banned all people involved in that scandal.

Other than that Clifton McNeeley in 1947 because instead of taking the pro job he instead took a high school coaching job.

Strangler Lewis · 06-08-2010, 11:01 AM

I believe we concluded a while ago that winning Minor League Player of the Year was a better predictor of success than winning the Heisman Trophy.

Moonliner · 06-08-2010, 11:27 AM

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I believe we concluded a while ago that winning Minor League Player of the Year was a better predictor of success than winning the Heisman Trophy.

Well duh! The Heisman is for FOOTBALL. Of course a baseball award would be a better predictor of success in the majors.....

Alex · 06-08-2010, 12:57 PM

Baseball Reference has "Hall of Fame" scores for everybody in which you earn points for various playing achievements. The average Hall of Famers has a score of 100. So far the MLB draft has only produced three surefire Hall of Famers in the #1 pick (Griffey-235 points, Rodriguez-349 points, Chipper Jones-162 points) and one borderline case (Harold Baines-66 points).

Excluding the three sure things, the rest of the group picked through 1997 (to allow time for an actual career) averages a Hall of Fame score of 13.2.

Unfortunately I don't see anything similar for basketball on their site. However, a somewhat random sample of modern major leaguers produces and average of 2.57. So they're definitely pretty good at making sure that the #1 pick is better than average.

Strangler Lewis · 06-08-2010, 01:23 PM

When Craig Biggio makes the Hall of Fame, my campaign for Harold Baines will begin in ernest.

Moonliner · 06-08-2010, 07:04 PM

Not a bad start for the kid. 14 X's in seven innings for the win.

I also like the rapid-fire pitch cadence he has. It keeps the game moving right along.

Note: 14 Strike outs ties the record for most in the majors so far this season.

Alex · 06-08-2010, 07:19 PM

Did they have a ceremony after the game to give him the Cy Young award or are they doing that before his next start?

Moonliner · 06-08-2010, 07:29 PM

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Did they have a ceremony after the game to give him the Cy Young award or are they doing that before his next start?

I don't know about that, but I have heard the term "The Sermon on the mound" tossed about....

Ghoulish Delight · 06-09-2010, 08:14 AM

He should get his ass kicked back down to the minors for that stroll to first in the 3rd.

Moonliner · 06-19-2010, 07:07 AM

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He should get his ass kicked back down to the minors for that stroll to first in the 3rd.

And what the F? He LOST a game. It's definitely time to send this guys back to the minors.

06-08-2010, 10:27 AM	#141
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Looking at NBA #1 picks, Last years #1 pick (Blake Griffin) hasn't yet played because he broke his foot before the start of the season. He's expected to return next season however. Before that the last #1 pick to never play in the NBA was Gene Melchiorre in 1951. He never played because he admitted to participating in a college point shaving scandal (after the draft) and the NBA banned all people involved in that scandal. Other than that Clifton McNeeley in 1947 because instead of taking the pro job he instead took a high school coaching job.
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Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	I believe we concluded a while ago that winning Minor League Player of the Year was a better predictor of success than winning the Heisman Trophy. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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06-08-2010, 12:57 PM	#144
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Baseball Reference has "Hall of Fame" scores for everybody in which you earn points for various playing achievements. The average Hall of Famers has a score of 100. So far the MLB draft has only produced three surefire Hall of Famers in the #1 pick (Griffey-235 points, Rodriguez-349 points, Chipper Jones-162 points) and one borderline case (Harold Baines-66 points). Excluding the three sure things, the rest of the group picked through 1997 (to allow time for an actual career) averages a Hall of Fame score of 13.2. Unfortunately I don't see anything similar for basketball on their site. However, a somewhat random sample of modern major leaguers produces and average of 2.57. So they're definitely pretty good at making sure that the #1 pick is better than average.
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06-08-2010, 01:23 PM	#145
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	When Craig Biggio makes the Hall of Fame, my campaign for Harold Baines will begin in ernest. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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06-08-2010, 07:04 PM	#146
Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	Not a bad start for the kid. 14 X's in seven innings for the win. I also like the rapid-fire pitch cadence he has. It keeps the game moving right along. Note: 14 Strike outs ties the record for most in the majors so far this season.
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06-08-2010, 07:19 PM	#147
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Did they have a ceremony after the game to give him the Cy Young award or are they doing that before his next start?
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	He should get his ass kicked back down to the minors for that stroll to first in the 3rd. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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