The Schiavo issue - Page 15

SacTown Chronic · 03-22-2005, 01:06 PM

Claire and Billy
sitting in a tree
k-i-s-s-i-n-g!

wendybeth · 03-22-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

Claire and Billy
sitting in a tree
k-i-s-s-i-n-g!

Eeeewwwwww!

AllyOops! · 03-22-2005, 03:11 PM

I am surprised nobody here has mentioned the Karen Ann Quinlan case. Her parents won the right to take her off of her respirator. Her respirator was removed in 1976. She was "supposed" to die.

However....

She survived until 1985, breathing on her own.

Obviously, a different case, but with a few notable parallells. I thought I would share.

That's all! My passionate lips shall remain sealed. If I don't walk away, I'll post like an uneducated ass*ole.

I'll spare you all of that. Plus, I'm a desperate people pleaser. Debate forums show us pathetic types no love.

scaeagles · 03-22-2005, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

Claire and Billy
sitting in a tree
k-i-s-s-i-n-g!

Can I watch????

SacTown Chronic · 03-22-2005, 05:24 PM

Uh sure, scaeagles. You and Claire can even take turns trading places if you want.

Nephythys · 03-22-2005, 05:06 PM

Sure Sac- feel good about 5 Republicans that voted aganst vs. the 50 plus Dems who switched to vote for.

scaeagles · 03-22-2005, 05:27 PM

Thanks for spoiling something that was gonna be really, really fun, Sac.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-22-2005, 05:36 PM

Actually it was 50 minus. 47 to be exact. With over 100 Dems not voting. And only 3 Dems present for the Senate voice vote. Believe my, I'm as disgusted at any spineless Dems who voted against their conscience for political reasons. But as has been mentioned, it was aggressive intervention by Jeb and his cronies that put them in that position to begin with. This case was decided in the courts 8 years ago. And for 8 years since, court after court has come to the same conclusion: She will not recover, and there is adequate reason to belive she requested not to be kept in a vegetative state (based on testimony of 3 individuals: her husband, her brother, and her sister-in-law). There has been no new evidence, no change in the opinions of the several medical experts who have examined her. All that's kept this going has been the concerted effort of activist politicians in power, using their positions to usurp the authority of the court systems.

Claire · 03-22-2005, 05:42 PM

I wanna give scaeagles mojo, but my pop-up blocker is working overtime. I never thought I'd giggle on this thread, but dangitall if I'm not.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2115123/ Another good link with a TON of good links attached. I've been going link by link through it for the past hour now.

scaeagles · 03-22-2005, 05:49 PM

Actually, as I read article iii, section ii of the Constitution, this is no such usurpation.

"In all other cases before mentioned, the supreme court shall have appellate juridiction, both as to law an fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations, as the congress shall make."

Based on this, I would suggest that no such usurpation exists. What happened is that Jeb and his attorney looked for a legal and Constitutional method to assist in what they - and Terri's parents - wanted to have happen. It is within the purview of the congress to make laws regarding jurisdiction.

Finding legal and constitutional ways to get the outcome you desire is not usurpation.

03-22-2005, 01:06 PM	#1
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	Claire and Billy sitting in a tree k-i-s-s-i-n-g! __________________ Is it the fingers, or the brain that you're teaching a lesson?
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03-22-2005, 03:11 PM	#3
AllyOops! It's Peanut Butter Jelly Time!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Introspection Intersection Posts: 1,207	I am surprised nobody here has mentioned the Karen Ann Quinlan case. Her parents won the right to take her off of her respirator. Her respirator was removed in 1976. She was "supposed" to die. However.... She survived until 1985, breathing on her own. Obviously, a different case, but with a few notable parallells. I thought I would share. That's all! My passionate lips shall remain sealed. If I don't walk away, I'll post like an uneducated assole. I'll spare you all of that. Plus, I'm a desperate people pleaser. Debate forums show us pathetic types no love. Last edited by AllyOops! : 03-22-2005 at 03:43 PM. Reason: Apparently, this A-hole can't type without editing every time.*
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SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	Uh sure, scaeagles. You and Claire can even take turns trading places if you want. __________________ Is it the fingers, or the brain that you're teaching a lesson?
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Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	Sure Sac- feel good about 5 Republicans that voted aganst vs. the 50 plus Dems who switched to vote for.
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03-22-2005, 05:27 PM	#7
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Thanks for spoiling something that was gonna be really, really fun, Sac.
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03-22-2005, 05:36 PM	#8
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Actually it was 50 minus. 47 to be exact. With over 100 Dems not voting. And only 3 Dems present for the Senate voice vote. Believe my, I'm as disgusted at any spineless Dems who voted against their conscience for political reasons. But as has been mentioned, it was aggressive intervention by Jeb and his cronies that put them in that position to begin with. This case was decided in the courts 8 years ago. And for 8 years since, court after court has come to the same conclusion: She will not recover, and there is adequate reason to belive she requested not to be kept in a vegetative state (based on testimony of 3 individuals: her husband, her brother, and her sister-in-law). There has been no new evidence, no change in the opinions of the several medical experts who have examined her. All that's kept this going has been the concerted effort of activist politicians in power, using their positions to usurp the authority of the court systems. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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03-22-2005, 05:42 PM	#9
Claire Shagilicious Disneyland!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fulfilling my destiny..... Posts: 740	I wanna give scaeagles mojo, but my pop-up blocker is working overtime. I never thought I'd giggle on this thread, but dangitall if I'm not. http://slate.msn.com/id/2115123/ Another good link with a TON of good links attached. I've been going link by link through it for the past hour now. __________________ Miles: It tastes like the back of a fing L.A. school bus. Now they probably didn't de-stem, hoping for some semblance of concentration, crushed it up with leaves and mice, and then wound up with this rancid tar and turpentine bull**. Fin' Raid. Jack: Tastes pretty good to me.
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03-22-2005, 05:49 PM	#10
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Actually, as I read article iii, section ii of the Constitution, this is no such usurpation. "In all other cases before mentioned, the supreme court shall have appellate juridiction, both as to law an fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations, as the congress shall make." Based on this, I would suggest that no such usurpation exists. What happened is that Jeb and his attorney looked for a legal and Constitutional method to assist in what they - and Terri's parents - wanted to have happen. It is within the purview of the congress to make laws regarding jurisdiction. Finding legal and constitutional ways to get the outcome you desire is not usurpation.
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