All About McCain

innerSpaceman · 08-06-2008, 09:59 AM

Ok ... so scaeagles claims he doesn't like McCain every bit as much as he doesn't like Obama. But all we read is how he doesn't like Obama. Day in and day out.

Pfft, I'm not a big Obama fan myself .... but scaeagles' constant battering is bordering on obsessive.

So let's put his money where his mouth is ... and here's an outlet to hear all about his dislike of John McCain.

(and, ya know, everybody's else's thoughts on the Replublican candidate for President)

scaeagles · 08-06-2008, 10:13 AM

Obama is the candidate getting all the attention, so it is natural that my attention would go there as well.

McCain - Feingold campaign finance reform.

The Keating 5. I think he's dishonest.

Illegal immigration and McCain - Kennedy.

His temper and over all demeanor.

His stance on tax cuts (which has changed, but I don't trust him on it)

His stance on drilling (which has changed, but I don't trust him on it)

That's the short list off the top of my head. The only thing I like about him is I think he "gets it" (meaning we pretty much agree) on national defense.

Scrooge McSam · 08-06-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

The only thing I like about him is I think he "gets it" (meaning we pretty much agree) on national defense.

What is it he "gets"?

The difference between Sunni and Shia... Nope, that can't be it.

Timelines? Nope, he's got big problems with those.

The definition of "defense"? No

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-06-2008, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

What is it he "gets"?

The difference between Sunni and Shia... Nope, that can't be it.

He's had trouble discerning between Taliban and Al-Qaeda too.

JWBear · 08-06-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

The only thing I like about him is I think he "gets it" (meaning we pretty much agree) on national defense.

Attacking another sovereign nation, without provocation, is not national defense. Having no plan on leaving said nation, and saying we will be there for 100 years, is insanity.

scaeagles · 08-06-2008, 11:04 AM

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Attacking another sovereign nation, without provocation, is not national defense.

Sorry. Gulf War I, widely accepted as...umm...acceptable, ended not with a treaty, but with a cease fire. Granted, we didn't invade Iraq because of violations of it, but the violations were not only provocation, but justification for the invasion.

I realize I am in the minority, but I think my logic is sound.

And I will say I find it somewhat amusing that out of my lengthy laundry list of what I disagree with him on the only comments are about what I agree with him on.

Ghoulish Delight · 08-06-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

And I will say I find it somewhat amusing that out of my lengthy laundry list of what I disagree with him on the only comments are about what I agree with him on.

Because the one thing you agree with him on is the one thing that he wants to use as the driving force behind his campaign which means it's going to be focused on.

JWBear · 08-06-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Sorry. Gulf War I, widely accepted as...umm...acceptable, ended not with a treaty, but with a cease fire. Granted, we didn't invade Iraq because of violations of it, but the violations were not only provocation, but justification for the invasion.

I realize I am in the minority, but I think my logic is sound.

And I will say I find it somewhat amusing that out of my lengthy laundry list of what I disagree with him on the only comments are about what I agree with him on.

I'm sorry... I thought we attacked Iraq because of WMDs... I mean 9/11... I mean human rights abuses... I mean... Um... why are we there exactly?

Potential violations of the Gulf War cease fire? That's a new one....

scaeagles · 08-06-2008, 03:06 PM

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Potential violations of the Gulf War cease fire? That's a new one....

I didn't use the word potential. Iraq violated the cease fire pretty much daily.

And I already stated that was not our official reason for going in. I get that. However, it certainly means it wasn't illegal.

Fab · 08-06-2008, 10:19 AM

So, were you against the war before you were for it, too?

08-06-2008, 09:59 AM	#1
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	All About McCain Ok ... so scaeagles claims he doesn't like McCain every bit as much as he doesn't like Obama. But all we read is how he doesn't like Obama. Day in and day out. Pfft, I'm not a big Obama fan myself .... but scaeagles' constant battering is bordering on obsessive. So let's put his money where his mouth is ... and here's an outlet to hear all about his dislike of John McCain. (and, ya know, everybody's else's thoughts on the Replublican candidate for President)
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08-06-2008, 10:13 AM	#2
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Obama is the candidate getting all the attention, so it is natural that my attention would go there as well. McCain - Feingold campaign finance reform. The Keating 5. I think he's dishonest. Illegal immigration and McCain - Kennedy. His temper and over all demeanor. His stance on tax cuts (which has changed, but I don't trust him on it) His stance on drilling (which has changed, but I don't trust him on it) That's the short list off the top of my head. The only thing I like about him is I think he "gets it" (meaning we pretty much agree) on national defense.
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