Deathly Hallows Book Discussion **LoTs Of Spoilers**

[Prudence]

The whole Wizard of Oz series. Over and over and over and over again.

[keith - SuPeR K!]

I found the whole death of Dumbledore in 6 to be much more sentimental than any of the deaths in 7. I cried through the whole end of 6 and for some time after. Dobby and Fred dying did make me tear up a bit, but it was no comparison to the sentiment I felt when Dumbledore was gone.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

"Witch of Blackbird Pond" was, I think, my first. Then there were these other stories, I remember "The Changeover", read that in like 5th or 6th grade, and there were various others, good stories but can't remember their names.

I have almost wore out my copy of Witch of Blackbird Pond- it's one of my all time favorites.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by jdramj

looks like Los Angeles gets the Knight Bus for at least 4 stops over a couple of days!

Yeah, but those days were in early July. Bah.

Originally Posted by keith - SuPeR K!

I found the whole death of Dumbledore in 6 to be much more sentimental than any of the deaths in 7. I cried through the whole end of 6 and for some time after. Dobby and Fred dying did make me tear up a bit, but it was no comparison to the sentiment I felt when Dumbledore was gone.

Yeah, I found the writing in this book to be very dry. I can't quite put my finger on why, with all the action, it was oddly uninvolving. I actually sat around for a while last night and tried to think of other ways the series could have ended, being that - yeah - there had to be a showdown between Voldemort and Harry Potter, and, yes, some action-packed stuff and maybe even lots of character deaths were de riguer.

I dunno, I was just unimpressed and meh about the whole story of being on the lam while sorta hunting down horcrux McGuffins and deathly hallow McGuffins, while racking up a mortality score of one character snuffing it after another, with one close-call escape from Death Eaters after another and a pair of polyjuice-aided infiltrations and, yawn, a big big battle at Hogwarts.

Hmmm, it sounds better to me in that synopsis than it was to read it. Not that it was horrible, but I somehow wish the final chapter was a completely different story.

The only bits of writing I found involving were Harry's travails in the aftermath of Dobby's death, his Limbo time with Dumbledore, and his walk to the gallows with all his dead loved ones for company.

In that interview someone linked to in this thread, Rowling says that last bit had been part of the story since forever ago - and that finally writing it was cathartic or something. It was a moving scene, as were the other two I mentioned.

I just got the feeling she had those few end points mapped out, with no real story to get there. I think she pulled this McGuffin-hunt tale out of a hat, and I wish there were others she could have sorted through.



This book wasn't as dry as the last one .... but I have to say I don't like the turn the series took after Order of the Phoenix. Oddly, now that the series is no longer "alive" (i.e., no more books), the last two movies that will come out are the ones where I'd rather the story had died.



Oh well, I still love me some Harry Potter (and, currently, some Ron Weasley) ... but I think J.K. Rowling ran out of steam some time ago.

[Snowflake]

Hmm, you raise some good points iSm. I already feel the need to re-read, I think partially because I rushed through the book, and seemed to have absorbed not a lot. That said, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm sure full of holes, but it moved and I was caught up in getting to the end before I saw any spoilers that would ruin my fun.

The series, as a whole, took a turn for me right after Goblet of Fire (which is still my favorite book of the series). I do admire Rowlings williness to make her hero someone you dislike as I did the angst-ridden and whiney Harry of Order of the Phoenix. Some of the magic left the books and got mired in too much, what, too much plot, too much darkness. I think dryness is a good word. Unfortunately, I think there was so much to finish up, the book already overlong, it was kind of weird to see so many names pop up for the literary equivalent of a cameo in the final battle. Not to second guess Rowling, for me it would have been nice to see more cross-cutting between the wizarding world and the trios adventures as they sought the horcruxes.

I felt more for the sentimental death of Dobby, the loss of Fred Weasley than I did for Sirius or even Dumbledore. I felt sad for the death of Snape, even though he was not a pleasant character, he was bad and spiteful, but he was also honorable and brave. I liked Snape, a lot (colored by Rickman's portrayal of him, as well).

I'm looking forward to taking each of the books again in hand to revist the whole adventure. Not the highest form of literature, but still a darn tootin good adventure, very immersive and I will look forward to the last two films, as well (More Snape!).

The book and the latest film in the same week made for a very potty snowflake.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Snowflake

I do admire Rowlings williness to make her hero someone you dislike as I did the angst-ridden and whiney Harry of Order of the Phoenix.

Heheh, a friend and I were talking yesterday about how different the Harry Potter of the movies is from the Harry Potter of the books. Book Potter is a bit of an asshole, actually. Motivation for it or not ... he's testy, very quick to anger, very quick to judgmentalism and thinking the worst of people, even those he purportedly loves.

I suggested maybe Rowling was intent on keeping the character realistic and relatable to the natural dickheadedness of the teenagers who are the main target audience. And, in a way, I admire that. Harry's not a dislikeable character, but his movie counterpart is played much more loveable.

Originally Posted by Snowflake

The book and the latest film in the same week made for a very potty snowflake.

Um, yeah, I myself have to apologize for posting every two seconds in the twelve Harry Potter threads ... but in the past 3 weeks I've watched every DVD, seen the new film 3 times, read two novels simultaneously, attended 3 Harry-Potter themed events, and developed a serious and disturbing crush on Ronald Weasley.

It's been my Potterist month EVER!

[Gemini Cricket]

So, who's the real hero of this book? Harry or Snape?

[Snowflake]

Oh, and speaking of having a very potter weekend, ayone care to join me for a back to back screening of films 1-4 at the Castro Theater over Labor Day Weekend? I'm thinking about it, could be fun.

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

and developed a serious and disturbing crush on Ronald Weasley.

Well, Grint is very cute, and has suffered from some bad hair in a couple of the movies.

The twins now look as old as me, how will they make it to the final film without looking older than their parents?

I had a crush on he who played Oliver Wood, I'm sure ot had everything to do with the accent.

Diggory was high on the cute-O-meter, too.

Oh, yes, I know NA saw Harry Potter naked, I know!

[Morrigoon]

Originally Posted by Snowflake

Oh, and speaking of having a very potter weekend, ayone care to join me for a back to back screening of films 1-4 at the Castro Theater over Labor Day Weekend? I'm thinking about it, could be fun.

Tempting. Unlikely, but tempting.