A Prop 8 challenge for swankers - Page 17

katiesue · 10-27-2008, 06:55 PM

Yay - there have been yes on 8 supporters flipin everywhere around here. And on the streetcorners morning and night. Finally today a group of No on 8 supporters took up another street corner with mostly hand made signs - YAY. I honked like mad for them.

BarTopDancer · 10-27-2008, 10:10 PM

How in the fvck can the Yes on 8 campaign get away with blatant lies about gay marriage being taught in schools in CA just because it is part of the MA curriculum?

Seriously, I'm asking. Isn't that slander or something? It's a complete and utter lie. I know the No on 8 commercials are countering it, but how can they say it to begin with?

Edit - apparently some parents are not happy with the ads

BarTopDancer · 10-30-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

How in the fvck can the Yes on 8 campaign get away with blatant lies about gay marriage being taught in schools in CA just because it is part of the MA curriculum?

Seriously, I'm asking. Isn't that slander or something? It's a complete and utter lie. I know the No on 8 commercials are countering it, but how can they say it to begin with?

Anyone?

Morrigoon · 10-28-2008, 12:41 AM

YES!

The other day I contacted some random person on Twitter who was asking about the churches-forced-to-marry thing. Basically, went to his profile, visited his site, commented there clarifying things. I just got an email from him... Secured another NO vote!

Morrigoon · 10-28-2008, 08:19 AM

their freedom to impose their religion on other people's relationships...

innerSpaceman · 10-28-2008, 08:21 AM

I wasn't able to convince my two Mormon crewmates to at least abstain.

Morrigoon · 10-28-2008, 08:24 AM

crewmates?

innerSpaceman · 10-28-2008, 09:32 AM

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crewmates?

Friends on this year's Halloween Party Crew. Two of them, including Autumn - who is basically my co-conspirator and equal host - are Mormon. I waited till after the party was done to have "The Talk" with them.

Frankly, they are two of the least hateful people I've ever known, so there's no mistaking their choice for hatefulness. Once I confirmed they are voting the way they are from their own volition rather than LDS decree, I had no choice of my own to but to respect their freedom of choice and cordially disagree with theirs.

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I know - maybe I should be more accepting of those with different thoughts and values... but damnit - they ought to get a taste of their own medicine and see how bitter it is.

Perhaps. But not from me. Who loses if I were to give them a taste of their own medicine? If I must become as intolerant as they in order to "teach them a lesson," I am the big loser.

It was enough to state my case, point out the hypocrisy of Mormons to foist their definition of marriage on others, and appeal to their lasting hurt that their personal view of the "right" definintion of marriage (i.e., male polygamy) has been made illegal by the determination of others.

BarTopDancer · 10-28-2008, 08:35 AM

I'm not going to push my co-worker to hard. He's got common sense about him and he's doing what he feels is right. His issue is with the word "marriage" and that a "marriage" should only be between 2 people of opposite sex, in a church blessed by god. He doesn't have an issue taking away the term "marriage" from hetero couples who weren't married in a church either.

At least he's pushing that the campaign ads are full of lies to his friends who believe them. Maybe a last minute crisis of consciousness will hit some of the Yes on 8 people in the voting booth.

Betty · 10-28-2008, 08:50 AM

No - I think the yes on 8 folks should be shunned. they are either blindly following their church without thinking for themselves or are no better then those who would discriminate based on ones skin color.

They would shun others - why not let all the others shun them instead.

I know - maybe I should be more accepting of those with different thoughts and values... but damnit - they ought to get a taste of their own medicine and see how bitter it is.

10-27-2008, 06:55 PM	#1
katiesue Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,678	Yay - there have been yes on 8 supporters flipin everywhere around here. And on the streetcorners morning and night. Finally today a group of No on 8 supporters took up another street corner with mostly hand made signs - YAY. I honked like mad for them. __________________ My life is so exciting I can hardly stand it.
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10-27-2008, 10:10 PM	#2
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	How in the fvck can the Yes on 8 campaign get away with blatant lies about gay marriage being taught in schools in CA just because it is part of the MA curriculum? Seriously, I'm asking. Isn't that slander or something? It's a complete and utter lie. I know the No on 8 commercials are countering it, but how can they say it to begin with? Edit - apparently some parents are not happy with the ads __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge Last edited by BarTopDancer : 10-27-2008 at 10:26 PM.
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10-28-2008, 12:41 AM	#4
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	YES! The other day I contacted some random person on Twitter who was asking about the churches-forced-to-marry thing. Basically, went to his profile, visited his site, commented there clarifying things. I just got an email from him... Secured another NO vote! __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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10-28-2008, 08:19 AM	#5
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	their freedom to impose their religion on other people's relationships... __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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10-28-2008, 08:21 AM	#6
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I wasn't able to convince my two Mormon crewmates to at least abstain.
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10-28-2008, 08:24 AM	#7
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	crewmates? __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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10-28-2008, 08:35 AM	#9
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	I'm not going to push my co-worker to hard. He's got common sense about him and he's doing what he feels is right. His issue is with the word "marriage" and that a "marriage" should only be between 2 people of opposite sex, in a church blessed by god. He doesn't have an issue taking away the term "marriage" from hetero couples who weren't married in a church either. At least he's pushing that the campaign ads are full of lies to his friends who believe them. Maybe a last minute crisis of consciousness will hit some of the Yes on 8 people in the voting booth. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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10-28-2008, 08:50 AM	#10
Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	No - I think the yes on 8 folks should be shunned. they are either blindly following their church without thinking for themselves or are no better then those who would discriminate based on ones skin color. They would shun others - why not let all the others shun them instead. I know - maybe I should be more accepting of those with different thoughts and values... but damnit - they ought to get a taste of their own medicine and see how bitter it is. __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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