All About McCain - Page 18

Morrigoon · 08-29-2008, 09:00 AM

Either candidate only needs a small edge to win this. Safest move is to find someone not particularly objectionable (eg: won't lose them votes over anything) who just might pick up a few (otherwise throwaway) votes for some stupid reason or another.

And I hate to say it, but ya gotta admit there ARE people who would vote the McCain ticket because he played the female-in-office card. Maybe not "many" but it isn't going to take "many" to win this election.

Strangler Lewis · 08-29-2008, 09:03 AM

Here's a theory: The majority of folks on the short list all have presidential aspirations. They have concluded 1) that McCain can't win, and they don't want people in 2012 to remember their most recent significant accomplishment as being a losing VP candidate; 2) that even if he does win, he's a one-termer and 2a) even if he does win and is a one-termer, the odds are against anything good happening in the next four years. Thus, McCain was left with the Hail Mary option.

Alex · 08-29-2008, 09:59 AM

Listened to NPR on my drive in. They'll be dismissed as slanted but they were rather perplexed by the choice not seeing much benefit to McCain in it (except for possibly shoring up centrist-right women and being some mollification for the pro-life crowd) and a fair amount of questions (similar to what I was saying in that many of the barbs they throw at Obama would apply to Palin).

Didn't hear her entire speech (got to work) but was pleased that she didn't milk her new child having Down's Syndrome -- let the media do that for you -- and did milk her son going to Iraq (which is smart and I still wonder why Biden didn't do it). She also did not, though I'm guessing she literally could right now, milk herself.

People who get pissy at nukular and Eye-rack and Eye-ran will be grinding their teeth.

BarTopDancer · 08-29-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

and did milk her son going to Iraq (which is smart and I still wonder why Biden didn't do it).

Perhaps Biden didn't because it doesn't make him that different from a lot of America these days. Though it could have been done in a "I'm a parent with a child in Iraq like you folks with kids over there" way instead of a feel sorry for me, my child is in Iraq way. Or perhaps it's because his child isn't on the front lines and it could alienate people or prompt people to start claiming special treatment for his son (though if I understand correctly, his son is a JAG lawyer, which generally isn't a front line position and isn't obtainable through favors).

Not Afraid · 08-29-2008, 10:07 AM

The only thing I know about her is an article I read in Vanity Fair a few months ago. I was actually impressed with her based on the one article. I actually think it is a smart choice and I think it makes him a bit dangerous.

Alex · 08-29-2008, 10:18 AM

I can't watch the video. But I think it is a perfectly valid question. The vice presidency, as an office, does not have anything they're supposed to do every day. Officially, they just sit in their comfy living room over at Observatory Circle and wait for the president to die.

So each president gets to define what, if anything, the vice president will get to do. Presumably McCain has offered Palin a role she finds satisfactory (hopefully it is beyond "I want you because you'll shore up some of my female support and you have a very similar chin as my wife")

Gemini Cricket · 08-29-2008, 10:29 AM

I suppose. But Cheney seemed to be pretty busy as VP.

BDBopper · 08-29-2008, 10:41 AM

It is very clear to me what this pick has done. I don't think the Hillary crowd will go for McCain regardless. What this pick has done has almost immidately charged up the base that was very tepid and unexcited. The reaction of the Huckabee supporters that I know has been pleasnt suprise and excitement. Regardless if this ticket wins or not the turnout will definitely increase in his favor and for races below him on the ticket.

Only time will tell what the net result will be.

innerSpaceman · 08-29-2008, 10:33 AM

Yes, because he quickly got Georgie used to loving his tongue up there, and had him hooked from Day One. Could write his own ticket.

Palin? Dunno, is she young and beautiful? I don't think McCain's immune to such obvious charms.

Strangler Lewis · 08-29-2008, 10:34 AM

A bucket of warm piss. Or not even.

08-29-2008, 09:00 AM	#1
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Either candidate only needs a small edge to win this. Safest move is to find someone not particularly objectionable (eg: won't lose them votes over anything) who just might pick up a few (otherwise throwaway) votes for some stupid reason or another. And I hate to say it, but ya gotta admit there ARE people who would vote the McCain ticket because he played the female-in-office card. Maybe not "many" but it isn't going to take "many" to win this election. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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08-29-2008, 09:03 AM	#2
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	Here's a theory: The majority of folks on the short list all have presidential aspirations. They have concluded 1) that McCain can't win, and they don't want people in 2012 to remember their most recent significant accomplishment as being a losing VP candidate; 2) that even if he does win, he's a one-termer and 2a) even if he does win and is a one-termer, the odds are against anything good happening in the next four years. Thus, McCain was left with the Hail Mary option. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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08-29-2008, 09:59 AM	#3
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Listened to NPR on my drive in. They'll be dismissed as slanted but they were rather perplexed by the choice not seeing much benefit to McCain in it (except for possibly shoring up centrist-right women and being some mollification for the pro-life crowd) and a fair amount of questions (similar to what I was saying in that many of the barbs they throw at Obama would apply to Palin). Didn't hear her entire speech (got to work) but was pleased that she didn't milk her new child having Down's Syndrome -- let the media do that for you -- and did milk her son going to Iraq (which is smart and I still wonder why Biden didn't do it). She also did not, though I'm guessing she literally could right now, milk herself. People who get pissy at nukular and Eye-rack and Eye-ran will be grinding their teeth.
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08-29-2008, 10:07 AM	#5
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	The only thing I know about her is an article I read in Vanity Fair a few months ago. I was actually impressed with her based on the one article. I actually think it is a smart choice and I think it makes him a bit dangerous.
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08-29-2008, 10:18 AM	#6
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I can't watch the video. But I think it is a perfectly valid question. The vice presidency, as an office, does not have anything they're supposed to do every day. Officially, they just sit in their comfy living room over at Observatory Circle and wait for the president to die. So each president gets to define what, if anything, the vice president will get to do. Presumably McCain has offered Palin a role she finds satisfactory (hopefully it is beyond "I want you because you'll shore up some of my female support and you have a very similar chin as my wife")
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08-29-2008, 10:29 AM	#7
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I suppose. But Cheney seemed to be pretty busy as VP.
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08-29-2008, 10:41 AM	#8
BDBopper Not Taking Any Crap! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cleaning Up America, One Step At A Time! Posts: 1,694	It is very clear to me what this pick has done. I don't think the Hillary crowd will go for McCain regardless. What this pick has done has almost immidately charged up the base that was very tepid and unexcited. The reaction of the Huckabee supporters that I know has been pleasnt suprise and excitement. Regardless if this ticket wins or not the turnout will definitely increase in his favor and for races below him on the ticket. Only time will tell what the net result will be.
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08-29-2008, 10:33 AM	#9
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yes, because he quickly got Georgie used to loving his tongue up there, and had him hooked from Day One. Could write his own ticket. Palin? Dunno, is she young and beautiful? I don't think McCain's immune to such obvious charms.
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08-29-2008, 10:34 AM	#10
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	A bucket of warm piss. Or not even. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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