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Old 04-02-2008, 09:18 AM   #181
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How about a Tuesday at 1:15 p.m.?

A Kosher wine can be not Kosher? Is that correct?

Asks the ignorant gentile.
Kosher vs. Kosher for Passover. Passover carries stricter rules stemming from not being able to eat leavened bread (bread that's risen due to yeast). Just because something is kosher for the rest of the year doesn't mean it's kosher for passover (e.g., bread is obviously a perfectly kosher food...but not for Passover). Yeast is, of course, an important ingredient in the wine making process, so it becomes tricky. Long ago, rabbis put their heads together and decided that for a wine to be considered kosher for Passover, the yeast in it cannot be yeast that's grown on bread (it usually comes from sugar instead).

Now, it happens that most kosher wines do this anyway (thus, the super-sweet varieties like Manischewitz or Kadeem). But then there is the large contingency of Jews, especially in America, that do not strictly keep Kosher for most of the year, but do observer most of the Passover rules, which means that they'll want to avoid "normal" (i.e., non-kosher) wines, because you have no way of knowing whether they use kosher for Passover yeasts.




Hmmm, I think that, just to make this thread retroactively on-topic, there should be a screening of the 10 Commandments at la casa. Or at least Prince of Egypt. Or maybe Ben-Hur.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:30 AM   #182
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Ooooh, I want a double feature of The Ten Commandments and Prince of Egypt!


My unconventional seder features clips from both, btw. And though my family kept Kosher for Passover (but not regularly Kosher) when I was growing up, I have eschewed that restriction. So we drink palatable wine (and lots of it ... 4 glasses per person are proscribed!!). And we feast on foods that are not necessarily Kosher for Passover.

We've combined the 2 halves of the seder into one long, pre-feast segment ... because we've found over the years that no one's really into more seder after a lot of wine and tons of food.

Oh, and I've designed and manufactured a custom Haggadah (the guidebook, if you will, to the seder) that's, if I do say so myself, a work of art - with imagery taken from various Haggadahs I've liked, but mostly from a 14th Century Manuscript of surpassing gorgeousness.

Oh, and as I said, we pepper our seder with film clips from The Ten Commandments and The Prince of Egypt. To my mind, the purpose of the seder is to communicate the story of to new and succeeding generations ... and I feel video is a recently-concocted way to fulfill that mandate for future humanity.

As such, our seder is a multi-media folk traditional extravaganza of music and joy and carousing and feasting. It's wonderful. And yikes, Gemini Cricket practically talked me into throwing one together for this year.


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Old 04-02-2008, 09:43 AM   #183
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Kosher vs. Kosher for Passover.
Thanks for the explanation. I am impressed that you can whip that out (presumably) without research.

But I think that the Jews have too damned many rules.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:45 AM   #184
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iSm, if you're doing one, I'm in. H will be out of town - and I'm not leaving the dogs behind to trek to the East Coast.

...and I still do want to have a movie get-together this month. A Friday? A Sunday brunch/movie? A school night? All good by me.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:52 AM   #185
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Depending on the decided day, I'm in.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:53 AM   #186
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Thanks for the explanation. I am impressed that you can whip that out (presumably) without research.

But I think that the Jews have too damned many rules.
When you spend a full week (actually, more than that as you've gotta start stocking up at least a week in advance) thinking about it every year for almost 30 years, it becomes pretty second nature.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:58 AM   #187
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mp, we're trying to throw one together for Saturday, April 19. We figure we need six to eight folks to make a go of it. If you're in, that makes 4 ... but I left it up to G.C. to scour up the guests. If he's successful (and that date works for people), then it's ON, BABY!
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:04 AM   #188
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When you say you want a double feaure of The Ten Commandments and Prince of Egypt, you'd best specify whether you mean the Charlton Heston version (or the previous C.B. DeMille silent epic), or last year's critically reviled animated version. It flopped at theaters, and it's easy to see why. With Prince of Egypt around, there was no need for another animated Moses movie.
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:07 AM   #189
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No, I mean a camcorder filming of the Val Kilmer musical theater version.



Ok, to be precise ... I mean the Cecille B DeMille remake of his earlier silent The Ten Commandments, this time starring Charleton Heston and Yul Brynner. And the initial Dreamworks animated feature The Prince of Eygpt.


(my seder features 3 clips from the former and 1 from the latter)
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:20 AM   #190
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What about that movie "Moses" with Ben Kingsley in the title role and Christopher Lee as Ramses?

For audio, there's the neat (and creepy) cd Plague Songs.

Sadly, though the title might imply otherwise, there's no Passover connection to Let My People Come. (Though perhaps at a seder organized by iSm...)
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