All About McCain - Page 19

Alex · 08-29-2008, 10:35 AM

Yes, but as far as the vice presidency goes, the political involvement of Cheney and Gore are the extreme outliers. And I think it is fair to say that Palin wouldn't expect anybody to want her to be the political hachetman that Cheney is.

It isn't for nothing that John Nance Gardner (FDR's first vice president) said the office isn't worth a warm bucket of spit. George Bush spent his 8 years as vice president attending funerals. Walter Mondale was the first president in history to be given so much as a cubicle in the White House.

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-29-2008, 10:36 AM

This is pretty interesting. I have a feeling that Biden is going to tear her to shreds in a debate.

Gemini Cricket · 08-29-2008, 10:44 AM

Will be looking at more vids, interviews with her. Curious as to why McCain thinks she's a good choice.

Alex · 08-29-2008, 10:48 AM

BDBopper, what about her excites them?

BDBopper · 08-29-2008, 12:27 PM

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BDBopper, what about her excites them?

Them (We) see Palin as one of us, one of growing few trying to reform the Republican Party away from the corrupt country-club cronyism that is rampent in the establishment We are trying to bring the party back to the people, caring for them practicing what Mike calls "Vertical Politics" Palin is one of a list of people we hoped would be considered (including Huckabee, Louisiana Governor, Bobby Jindal, former Maryland Lt. Governor Michale Steele, and others). If you want to pin them down as anything they are Conservative Populists.

As a note of reference most of us are young and very new to politics. We voted for and supported Mike Huckabee for the same reasons others in our generation vote for and support Barack Obama. Our political ideology is just a bit different. However we all voted for change.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-29-2008, 10:58 AM

My (female, pro-Obama, anti-McCain) perspective seems to be aligned with Helen's. I'm insulted. The very idea that droves of women will swing over to vote for McCain simply because he picked an unknown woman to run with him...grrr. What does she really bring to the table in terms of "something McCain doesn't have"?

Regarding "family values", whatever that means - she returned to work three days after giving birth to her Trig (the one with down syndrome) saying "My baby will not be at all or in any sense neglected." I run a bit conservative on those lines, and I'm sure there are plenty of McCain supporters who would be troubled by the working mom mystique.

Strangler Lewis · 08-29-2008, 11:05 AM

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I'm sure there are plenty of McCain supporters who would be troubled by the working mom mystique.

The what?

tracilicious · 08-29-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

My (female, pro-Obama, anti-McCain) perspective seems to be aligned with Helen's. I'm insulted. The very idea that droves of women will swing over to vote for McCain simply because he picked an unknown woman to run with him...grrr. What does she really bring to the table in terms of "something McCain doesn't have"?

Regarding "family values", whatever that means - she returned to work three days after giving birth to her Trig (the one with down syndrome) saying "My baby will not be at all or in any sense neglected." I run a bit conservative on those lines, and I'm sure there are plenty of McCain supporters who would be troubled by the working mom mystique.

Likewise. Not that I would vote McCain anyways, but it so happens that pretty much every first world country besides US offers paid maternity leave. Doesn't sound like she'd be pushing women's rights in that direction. Her 3 day return says to me that she doesn't value family all that much.

3894 · 08-30-2008, 06:23 AM

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Her 3 day return says to me that she doesn't value family all that much.

To me, that's a woman in patriarchal Alaska overdoing the I'm-tougher-than-a-man. And speaking of Alaska, Palin is governor of a state with a population of 670,00 or, as the Dallas News says here, Alaska = Memphis.

So if she could go back to work after 3 days, the job of governor of Alaska can't be that demanding.

Palin is a Dan Quayle pick.

innerSpaceman · 08-29-2008, 11:19 AM

Heheheh, good point, McCain just ensured she's going to campaign like a runaway truck for Obama.

Idiot.

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I was listening to a radio show last night with a bunch of 20-something guests, and by a large margin they thought Obama was full of crap and were going to vote for McCain! I was astounded. I thought Obama had the young voter block locked up??? What's going on?

(ok, it was the puny sample of kids on SuPerR K!'s Downstairs Mixup, but I was astounded nonetheless.)

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Yes, but as far as the vice presidency goes, the political involvement of Cheney and Gore are the extreme outliers. And I think it is fair to say that Palin wouldn't expect anybody to want her to be the political hachetman that Cheney is. It isn't for nothing that John Nance Gardner (FDR's first vice president) said the office isn't worth a warm bucket of spit. George Bush spent his 8 years as vice president attending funerals. Walter Mondale was the first president in history to be given so much as a cubicle in the White House.
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Motorboat Cruiser Cruiser of Motorboats Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,665	This is pretty interesting. I have a feeling that Biden is going to tear her to shreds in a debate.
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Will be looking at more vids, interviews with her. Curious as to why McCain thinks she's a good choice.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	BDBopper, what about her excites them?
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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	My (female, pro-Obama, anti-McCain) perspective seems to be aligned with Helen's. I'm insulted. The very idea that droves of women will swing over to vote for McCain simply because he picked an unknown woman to run with him...grrr. What does she really bring to the table in terms of "something McCain doesn't have"? Regarding "family values", whatever that means - she returned to work three days after giving birth to her Trig (the one with down syndrome) saying "My baby will not be at all or in any sense neglected." I run a bit conservative on those lines, and I'm sure there are plenty of McCain supporters who would be troubled by the working mom mystique. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Heheheh, good point, McCain just ensured she's going to campaign like a runaway truck for Obama. Idiot. * * * * I was listening to a radio show last night with a bunch of 20-something guests, and by a large margin they thought Obama was full of crap and were going to vote for McCain! I was astounded. I thought Obama had the young voter block locked up??? What's going on? (ok, it was the puny sample of kids on SuPerR K!'s Downstairs Mixup, but I was astounded nonetheless.)
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