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Old 03-07-2016, 09:46 AM   #11
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Yeah, I think a lot of Trump supporters don't quite have a grasp of reality.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:14 AM   #12
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Though I have been strongly opposed to many candidates through the years, this is the first time I've been truly frightened by the prospect of a legitimate candidate getting elected.
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I think the phrase "legitimate candidate" is used rather loosely in this case...
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Old 03-09-2016, 12:34 PM   #14
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I also have acquaintances who are huge Trump supporters and I just can't quite get it either. They're not stupid people, they have good jobs etc. I've actually been sort of surprised that a large number of people that I know who are more "hick" are very anti-trump.
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An interesting analysis.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...ricans-support

This actually scares me more than anything. Because as we're busy attacking his racist clowning, the bulk of his supporters are saying to themselves, "Whatever, I'm not racist, I just want to keep jobs here." Hopefully once the campaign turns from the primary, if he's the candidate, the Democratic campaign managers recognize this and can start focusing on where his policies actually suck (or don't exist) rather than the dog and pony show he's effectively using as a smoke screen.
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Great article GD. And the folks I know who are supporters are talking about things like NAFTA and jobs.

Question. Trump the great deal maker. Has he ever really made any great deals or has he just said it enough about himself to make people think it's true?
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It's hard to day. It might be easy to point to his 4 bankruptcy filings, but in reality that's part of the game at the level of investment he deals in. It's not unusual for that to happen, especially considering the overall decline of the gambling industry during the period he was going through them.

However, he inherited his position in the investment industry by virtue of birth. He didn't build his business, he's been playing with house money from the start. Doesn't mean he isn't capable of making smart business moves, but the fact of his wealth is not evidence of it.
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:57 AM   #18
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Right bankruptcies are a part of the game. I know a number of the buildings and projects that have TRUMP in big letters outside aren't actually owned by him. He licenses the name, which honestly is a smart business. But it also gives the illusion that he owns more than he actually does. I read an article last week that he's not even in the top 10 of real estate owners in New York. He only owns 2 floors of Trump Towers for instance. (hopefully I'm remembering correctly.)
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Also - even if I were to believe him to be a successful businessman, that does not necessarily mean good President. 1) The President is not in charge of running the government and 2) Managing taxes and public spending is NOT the same as running a business. The goals and mechanisms are radically different, success in one does not translate to success in the other.
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Old 03-14-2016, 03:10 PM   #20
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Right I've said that all along running a big business is so not the same as running a government. The president has way less control, by design, than a CEO of a corporation. I work for and have worked for people who run large businesses and it's not remotely the same sort of thing.
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