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Old 06-22-2005, 08:39 PM   #11
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I have a deep hatred for anyone who burns the American Flag.....it shows a complete lack of respect for those who died for it and in most cases is done out of hatred towards this country..........but a ban on burning it doesn't sit too well with me either.
Nobody died for the flag. They died for the citizens of America, for our way of life, for freedom.

This is yet another issue I won't be discussing with my Air Force brother who does Color Guard duties...
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Old 06-22-2005, 08:46 PM   #12
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..........but a ban on burning it doesn't sit too well with me either.
"doesn't sit to well"? Sorry to be blunt, but it should sit about as well as a ban on saying, "I hate America." A sentiment I disagree with with all my heart, but the idea of making it unconstitutional to say it sickens me to no end. Talk of banning flag burning gives me the same feeling.
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Old 06-22-2005, 08:46 PM   #13
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Someone please explain to me why a symbolic piece of cloth should get protection in the Constitution when equal protection for women (the Equal Rights Amendment) isn't in the Constitution yet?
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The disgust I feel by people who intentionally desecrate the American flag is only exceeded by the contempt I feel for this latest attack on our rights. I feel like I'm in a weird time warp, and it's 1955 all over again. Before you know it, we'll be required to sign loyalty oaths and have our SS numbers tattooed on our foreheads.

Why on earth is the Republican party so hellbent on rewriting the Constitution?
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Old 06-22-2005, 08:53 PM   #15
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And before anyone drags out the tired, "Well, there are laws against hate speech" argument, those laws 1) only apply in situations where it is obvious that the speech will result in volatile, violent reacions and 2) does not discriminate against any single people or view. It's equally illegal to walk into a meeting of the American Socialist part and scream, "Die commie bastards!" as it is to stand on the floor of the NY Stock Exchange and declare, "You capitalist pigs will rot in hell!" This ban specifically targets those that seek to speak out against the government, an the very act that the First Amendement, more than anything, was written to protect.
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Old 06-22-2005, 08:54 PM   #16
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Ah the flag code. AKA, "The Guide to Flag Idolatry". Interesting thing about the flag code. It's not a criminal offense to break it.

Yes, but it seems those thet Idolize it are the ones who most blatently disregard the code for convience of how much red, white and blue they can get on their car, home or person..

I truly believe the bigger ones "God Bless America" display on the back of their car, the bigger a$$hole they are while driving.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:31 PM   #17
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I propose we make these unconstitutional.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:39 PM   #18
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(h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.

seems to me every military funeral color guard violates this part of the flag code during every funeral when they place the spent shells from the gun salute into the flag for delivery to the next of kin.

and on the flag burning amendment, guess I will just have to make up some flags that look like the US flag, but are still distincly different(7white, 6 red stripes, purple background with 100 stars) and burn those in protest.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:44 PM   #19
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I propose we make these unconstitutional.

Maybe..

but definatly for These

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