Anti-flag burning amendment passes first hurdle - Page 2

Cadaverous Pallor · 06-22-2005, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

I have a deep hatred for anyone who burns the American Flag.....it shows a complete lack of respect for those who died for it and in most cases is done out of hatred towards this country..........but a ban on burning it doesn't sit too well with me either.

Nobody died for the flag. They died for the citizens of America, for our way of life, for freedom.

This is yet another issue I won't be discussing with my Air Force brother who does Color Guard duties...

wendybeth · 06-22-2005, 08:53 PM

The disgust I feel by people who intentionally desecrate the American flag is only exceeded by the contempt I feel for this latest attack on our rights. I feel like I'm in a weird time warp, and it's 1955 all over again. Before you know it, we'll be required to sign loyalty oaths and have our SS numbers tattooed on our foreheads.

Why on earth is the Republican party so hellbent on rewriting the Constitution?

LSPoorEeyorick · 06-22-2005, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth

Why on earth is the Republican party so hellbent on rewriting the Constitution?

And the worst part, for me, is that none of this fvcking shocks me anymore. The Republicans are defecating on our free speech? *looks at watch* Yup, that's right about on time.

To quote a movie I don't like, but which is apropos: "so this is how liberty dies..."

Ghoulish Delight · 06-22-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

..........but a ban on burning it doesn't sit too well with me either.

"doesn't sit to well"? Sorry to be blunt, but it should sit about as well as a ban on saying, "I hate America." A sentiment I disagree with with all my heart, but the idea of making it unconstitutional to say it sickens me to no end. Talk of banning flag burning gives me the same feeling.

lindyhop · 06-22-2005, 08:46 PM

Someone please explain to me why a symbolic piece of cloth should get protection in the Constitution when equal protection for women (the Equal Rights Amendment) isn't in the Constitution yet?

Cadaverous Pallor · 06-22-2005, 08:36 PM

Thing is, I totally dig the flag code. I respect the flag as much as anyone. But that's my own POV - I don't think it should be the law.

The idea of jailing people for doing something to a piece of cloth is ridiculous to me, even if I wouldn't do it.

Ghoulish Delight · 06-22-2005, 08:53 PM

And before anyone drags out the tired, "Well, there are laws against hate speech" argument, those laws 1) only apply in situations where it is obvious that the speech will result in volatile, violent reacions and 2) does not discriminate against any single people or view. It's equally illegal to walk into a meeting of the American Socialist part and scream, "Die commie bastards!" as it is to stand on the floor of the NY Stock Exchange and declare, "You capitalist pigs will rot in hell!" This ban specifically targets those that seek to speak out against the government, an the very act that the First Amendement, more than anything, was written to protect.

Ghoulish Delight · 06-22-2005, 09:31 PM

I propose we make these unconstitutional.

FEJ · 06-22-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I propose we make these unconstitutional.

Maybe..

but definatly for These

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Gn2Dlnd · 06-23-2005, 02:15 AM

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06-22-2005, 08:53 PM	#2
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	The disgust I feel by people who intentionally desecrate the American flag is only exceeded by the contempt I feel for this latest attack on our rights. I feel like I'm in a weird time warp, and it's 1955 all over again. Before you know it, we'll be required to sign loyalty oaths and have our SS numbers tattooed on our foreheads. Why on earth is the Republican party so hellbent on rewriting the Constitution? __________________
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lindyhop Swing Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Beach Posts: 997	Someone please explain to me why a symbolic piece of cloth should get protection in the Constitution when equal protection for women (the Equal Rights Amendment) isn't in the Constitution yet?
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06-22-2005, 08:36 PM	#6
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Thing is, I totally dig the flag code. I respect the flag as much as anyone. But that's my own POV - I don't think it should be the law. The idea of jailing people for doing something to a piece of cloth is ridiculous to me, even if I wouldn't do it. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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06-22-2005, 08:53 PM	#7
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	And before anyone drags out the tired, "Well, there are laws against hate speech" argument, those laws 1) only apply in situations where it is obvious that the speech will result in volatile, violent reacions and 2) does not discriminate against any single people or view. It's equally illegal to walk into a meeting of the American Socialist part and scream, "Die commie bastards!" as it is to stand on the floor of the NY Stock Exchange and declare, "You capitalist pigs will rot in hell!" This ban specifically targets those that seek to speak out against the government, an the very act that the First Amendement, more than anything, was written to protect. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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06-22-2005, 09:31 PM	#8
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I propose we make these unconstitutional. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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