Sneaky meat rice!

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812

GAH! GAH!

Chitterlings? (AKA chitlin's)

[BarTopDancer]

Ok, when you said scaley buddies I thought snakes. And then I thought wait, I don't think EH moved to a roadkill diner state...

There are so many products that contain animal. Non-Kosher gelatin can contain cow byproducts. I was at my local Japanese market this weekend and was extra careful about what I purchased since the ingrediants were not in English. I think seaweed, tofu, miso base and rice wrappers are pretty safe.

[innerSpaceman]

Frankly, I would have just as hard a time eating my photosynthesizing buddies who are beyond-slaughterhouse easy pickins ... cause they can't even move out of the way!

Vegetation is alive. We kill it to eat it. Yes, we often don't kill the entire organizism to eat part of it ..... but we must cause a bit of death for almost every bite we take to stay alive - - whether we bite Bobby Brocolli, Freddy Fish, or Calvin Cow.



Oh, I know there are tons of really good reasons why so-called higher organisms such as fish or mammals should not be killed for food. And, well, I agree with them. I truly hope to be completely vegetarian .... in my next life.

But in this one, I want to question why we refer to more familar, more anthropomorphic life as "higher" forms of life.

[Not Afraid]

I love my suede and leather jackets.

[€uroMeinke]

Tonight we had Fire Breathing Salmon - it was a surprise of a different sort. I will pay for it later, I'm sure

[Prudence]

You know what feels reeeeeeaaaaaly nice? Sea otter pelt. But you can't get it legally. (They had sample pelts for show and tell at the aquarium.) Damned endangered species!

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Tonight we had Fire Breathing Salmon - it was a surprise of a different sort. I will pay for it later, I'm sure

Or the poor unfortunates around you.........

[Cadaverous Pallor]

All the following is IMHO.

I'm with on this one. I feel a large kinship with plants. Every time I've made my pilgrimage to Sequoia National Forest I've thought about these living things that are ridiculously old. I mean, you cut these things and they bleed! Making a house out of the bones of trees is basically the same thing as making one out of buffalo hides...a living thing died for your own comfort. That's the way it is, and I'm ok with that.

I'm an animal lover, and I'm a total nutcase when it comes to anything small and furry. But I have no qualms about thinking baby chicks are adorable and then eating roast chicken (or eggs, for that matter).

I gotta say this - Saying that using animals for food and clothing is "bad" is like saying sex is "bad". It's how we were designed. I'm no self-hater.

Of course it's a free country and everyone can abstain from whatever they want.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

But in this one, I want to question why we refer to more familar, more anthropomorphic life as "higher" forms of life.

I'm not as spiritual as you are, not by a long shot. But I've heard of experiments with trees that seemed to prove that they were even sentient. One experiment involved a man chopping down a tree in the forest. The trees in the area were fixed with equipment that measured...something. I cannot remember the word. Dude, maybe it was electrodes. My goodness, this paragraph is making me feel stupid. Sorry. Anyway, they were taking some sort of reading from the trees. When the guy returned with the axe, the trees went wonky, crazy, the readins were all over the place. The trees seemed to be aware that the man with the axe had returned, and they might be next...

I do think that all life responds to nurturing and that plants are alive. I realize that human beings must take life in order to survive, so many living things on this planet are natural born sacrifices to their human counterparts. Blah-blah-and so on.

I don't want to snuggle up with a head of brocolli, though. My not eating meat has everything to do with how heartbroken I get when Wilbur and Fern are separated. I wouldn't feel that way if her father had taken away her pet asparagus. Heh.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I gotta say this - Saying that using animals for food and clothing is "bad" is like saying sex is "bad". It's how we were designed. I'm no self-hater.

Of course it's a free country and everyone can abstain from whatever they want.

You know, no one said it was bad. I said it twice, it's a personal choice. I looked at a cow one day and suddenly didn't see a difference between eating a cow and eating my own cat. So, rather than decide it's okay for me to eat my own cat, I decided it's no longer okay for me to eat cows. Not having that kind of emotional attachment to plants (which I seem to be able to kill just by looking at them sideways, even though I attempt plant ownership with the best of intentions), I don't feel so bad about consuming them. And, same goes for fish. That may change in future; I don't know.

But I doubt I'll ever become one of those peole who ONLY eat what's fallen off the vine. I just...I'd be so effin' hungry all the time. Heh.