Intelligent Design - Page 2

tracilicious · 11-09-2005, 04:49 PM

I do believe in God, etc. But I don't want it taught to my kids in school. That's not what I'm sending them for. Even if I disagree with Darwin, there are still merits to learning various theories and ways of thinking. They are presented as theories anyways. Not solid fact. I think if people want to combine spirituality and school then they should send their kids to a religious school. Or homeschool. Don't muck up my kids biology class.

Moonliner · 11-09-2005, 05:03 PM

Aside from all the issues surrounding ID vs Evolution, I have to say it's nice to see that at least occasionally democracy works for the people. No matter which side of the argument you are on it's fairly clear that the school board somehow lost touch with the parents in that state. Hopefully this will serve as a shot across the bow of other school boards that don't listen to parents.

Ghoulish Delight · 11-09-2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

It's kind of like inventing the wheel and then only ever using it to make lazy susans.

But the lazy susan is so amazing, so powerful, and so complicated, clearly it was crafted by an as-yet-unamed mystical being.

Quote:

I'm still rooting for the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Behold his noodleyness!

Name · 11-09-2005, 06:07 PM

For once, I actually agree with the Vatican on the subject of intelligent design.....

http://science.slashdot.org/article....&tid=99&tid=14

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typobox43 writes "A Vatican representative has expressed a defense of the theory of evolution, stating that it is "perfectly compatible" with the Genesis story of creation. "The fundamentalists want to give a scientific meaning to words that had no scientific aim," he said at a Vatican press conference. He said the real message in Genesis was that "the universe didn't make itself and had a creator"."

The slashdot posting also has some really interesting discussion on intelligent design and science as well, and since I agree with intelligent design is not science, I agree with the folks on slashdot that hold that position as well....

€uroMeinke · 11-09-2005, 08:07 PM

We are DEVO

Honestly - I think Metaphysics needs to be mandatory for all graduating seniors

Gemini Cricket · 11-09-2005, 09:00 PM

Name- I saw that, too. I agree also. That's what the science nuns in my grade and high school taught us.

I'm trying to get Ralphie to post about Intelligent Design. He's being sheepish. He has a lot of good points about what's going on. I'll try some more.

€uroMeinke · 11-09-2005, 09:12 PM

You know, I'm not sure how inteligent design is contrary to evolution any more than it is to the Big Bang Theory - they all might be the work of an intelligent designer.

Stan4dSteph · 11-09-2005, 09:13 PM

Intelligent design is not science. Feel free to teach it in a philosophy or theology class, but it doesn't belong in the science classroom. I also find it interesting that generally those people advocating this and saying it's not religion are only viewing it from the Christian perspective. What about all the other deities who could have been the designer?

Name · 11-09-2005, 09:15 PM

And that sir, is the vatican's position.....

However the Fundi's position is that evolution is false, the big bang is false, and the genesis story of the creation of the universe is to be taken as literal truth.......

Which is just scientifically silly.

Kevy Baby · 11-09-2005, 09:16 PM

The best argument against IE is the Platypus. No sign of intelligence in that design!

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tracilicious avatar transition Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in-between Posts: 2,487	I do believe in God, etc. But I don't want it taught to my kids in school. That's not what I'm sending them for. Even if I disagree with Darwin, there are still merits to learning various theories and ways of thinking. They are presented as theories anyways. Not solid fact. I think if people want to combine spirituality and school then they should send their kids to a religious school. Or homeschool. Don't muck up my kids biology class. __________________ And now Harry, let us step into the night and pursue that flighty temptress, adventure! - Albus Dumbledore
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Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	Aside from all the issues surrounding ID vs Evolution, I have to say it's nice to see that at least occasionally democracy works for the people. No matter which side of the argument you are on it's fairly clear that the school board somehow lost touch with the parents in that state. Hopefully this will serve as a shot across the bow of other school boards that don't listen to parents. __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	We are DEVO Honestly - I think Metaphysics needs to be mandatory for all graduating seniors __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Name- I saw that, too. I agree also. That's what the science nuns in my grade and high school taught us. I'm trying to get Ralphie to post about Intelligent Design. He's being sheepish. He has a lot of good points about what's going on. I'll try some more.
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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	You know, I'm not sure how inteligent design is contrary to evolution any more than it is to the Big Bang Theory - they all might be the work of an intelligent designer. __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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Stan4dSteph Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,156	Intelligent design is not science. Feel free to teach it in a philosophy or theology class, but it doesn't belong in the science classroom. I also find it interesting that generally those people advocating this and saying it's not religion are only viewing it from the Christian perspective. What about all the other deities who could have been the designer?
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Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	The best argument against IE is the Platypus. No sign of intelligence in that design! __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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