Bill O'Reilly, a "Horror"ible person. - Page 2

Gemini Cricket · 12-09-2005, 11:36 AM

This whole 'Christmas' versus 'Holiday' thing is ridiculous. Ridiculous the last time they mentioned it, ridiculous now.

Who cares? (This is not a reflection of the OP or the poster.) I just mean, who cares? This is such a nothing issue to get so riled up about.
If the religious right and nutjobs like O'Reilly are so certain about their beliefs and religion etc, why would they worry about Target saying 'Holiday' instead of 'Christmas'? If their faith is strong enough, it shouldn't matter.

They're saying 'holiday' for three reasons that I can figure out. 1. Holiday meaning 'holy day'. Thus it acknowledges the importance of the 25th to the Christians celebrating. 2. It's an inexpensive way to say 'Happy Thanksgiving', 'Merry Christmas', 'Happy Chanukah', 'Happy Kwanzah' 'Happy Solstice' and 'Happy New Year' all at the same time. 3. It's all inclusive of everyone celebrating at this time.

These Christian facists want everything their way with an in your face 'Merry Christmas' and they're making a big stink out of it. Thus draining all festive meaning from this time to focus on the morbidity and anger of people called Christians thinking they're being victimized. Bleh.

Fine boycott everbody who says 'Happy Holidays'. Boycott Ford, boycott Wells Fargo, boycott Target, boycott Disney... Take your holy money and sit on it. And to quote what people like O'Reilly say, 'If you don't like it. Leave.'

Ghoulish Delight · 12-09-2005, 11:51 AM

Exactly my point, and the implication of the last paragraph in my OP. Get over it, celebrate Christmas however you please, and let others do as they please. Get off your horse over it.

And if you really want to get down to it...umm, yeah, Christmas is sooo threatened. All this Holiday stuff is just making it impossible to celebrate Christmas.

. STFU. Christmas starts in October now, thanks to "Happy Holidays." Hannukah is turning into (has turned into?) Jew-Christmas. There's MORE Christmas than ever, no matter what word you put on it.

Now, I don't blame anyone for that, or suspect some evil conspiracy. The more I examine it, the more I realize that it's just a consequence of the religion. It's why Christmas as we know it is actually an amalgum of every culture Christianity has run across. And it may very well lead to the eventual demise of distinguishable cultures. Not something I look forward too. However, I'm not angry about it. I don't feel that I can support it, so I do what I can to continue my personal cultural heritage, but to be up in arms about it, and calling for "horror" is irresponsible and ridiculous.

Mousey Girl · 12-09-2005, 04:53 PM

My dad made a point to say on Thanksgiving, "In this house we say Merry Christmas."

I know why he said it, the only radio stations they listen too are talk. I happened to listen to Shawn Hanady in the car a week or 2 ago and that was ALL he was talking about. It seems extremly silly coming from a man (my dad) who hasn't got a religious thought in his head. He is just becoming increasingly narrow minded as he ages.

10 years ago I worked retail. I always said "Have a great Holiday." I just thought it sounded better than a generic, not meant, "Merry Christmas."

These ultra conservatives need to find something else to harp on...

tracilicious · 12-09-2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Yesterday at Ralphs we saw "Eurotrees" advertsied. Though I'm not responsible for this, I hereby volunteer to be the PC replacement for Christmas - heck I've got the right first name and my birthday is on the 24th (of the next month).

Merry Euromas!

Uhh...I think you might be taking this message board thing a bit too seriously. Your first name isn't really Euro.

Not Afraid · 12-09-2005, 09:02 PM

I saw the sign for the "Eurotree", stopped, grabbed The Christman and back up through the store. I almost bought one, but they were just Xmastree-shapped mini pines. What I really wanted was the sign.

Damn, why aren't markets open 24 hours anymore. You can't plan late-night shoplifting sign excursions these days.

CoasterMatt · 12-09-2005, 09:27 PM

Merry Christmas Everybody!

Name · 12-09-2005, 09:35 PM

happy holy days

€uroMeinke · 12-10-2005, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tracilicious

Uhh...I think you might be taking this message board thing a bit too seriously. Your first name isn't really Euro.

Ah, but it is Christian - so I think I have some leeway here

MickeyD · 12-11-2005, 01:32 PM

I saw a funny little segment on The Daily Show that showed a clip of O'Reilley's show where he names Jon Stewart from "Secular" Central as the leader of the War on Christmas.

It kinda cracked me up the way he said secular like it was such bad thing....like Comedy Central should be synomyous with Religion or something....

Anyway...whatever holiday anyone wishes to celebrate...I hope it's great...as far as I know whatever anyone else celebrates doesn't diminish my Christmas at all. Peace on Earth and all that.

tracilicious · 12-11-2005, 07:32 PM

That's funny. I love it when Jon mocks Bill. I'd probably just get mad at Bill mocking Jon.

12-09-2005, 11:36 AM	#11
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	This whole 'Christmas' versus 'Holiday' thing is ridiculous. Ridiculous the last time they mentioned it, ridiculous now. Who cares? (This is not a reflection of the OP or the poster.) I just mean, who cares? This is such a nothing issue to get so riled up about. If the religious right and nutjobs like O'Reilly are so certain about their beliefs and religion etc, why would they worry about Target saying 'Holiday' instead of 'Christmas'? If their faith is strong enough, it shouldn't matter. They're saying 'holiday' for three reasons that I can figure out. 1. Holiday meaning 'holy day'. Thus it acknowledges the importance of the 25th to the Christians celebrating. 2. It's an inexpensive way to say 'Happy Thanksgiving', 'Merry Christmas', 'Happy Chanukah', 'Happy Kwanzah' 'Happy Solstice' and 'Happy New Year' all at the same time. 3. It's all inclusive of everyone celebrating at this time. These Christian facists want everything their way with an in your face 'Merry Christmas' and they're making a big stink out of it. Thus draining all festive meaning from this time to focus on the morbidity and anger of people called Christians thinking they're being victimized. Bleh. Fine boycott everbody who says 'Happy Holidays'. Boycott Ford, boycott Wells Fargo, boycott Target, boycott Disney... Take your holy money and sit on it. And to quote what people like O'Reilly say, 'If you don't like it. Leave.'
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12-09-2005, 11:51 AM	#12
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Exactly my point, and the implication of the last paragraph in my OP. Get over it, celebrate Christmas however you please, and let others do as they please. Get off your horse over it. And if you really want to get down to it...umm, yeah, Christmas is sooo threatened. All this Holiday stuff is just making it impossible to celebrate Christmas. . STFU. Christmas starts in October now, thanks to "Happy Holidays." Hannukah is turning into (has turned into?) Jew-Christmas. There's MORE Christmas than ever, no matter what word you put on it. Now, I don't blame anyone for that, or suspect some evil conspiracy. The more I examine it, the more I realize that it's just a consequence of the religion. It's why Christmas as we know it is actually an amalgum of every culture Christianity has run across. And it may very well lead to the eventual demise of distinguishable cultures. Not something I look forward too. However, I'm not angry about it. I don't feel that I can support it, so I do what I can to continue my personal cultural heritage, but to be up in arms about it, and calling for "horror" is irresponsible and ridiculous. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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12-09-2005, 04:53 PM	#13
Mousey Girl Just Me Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In The Flagon With The Dragon Posts: 2,437	My dad made a point to say on Thanksgiving, "In this house we say Merry Christmas." I know why he said it, the only radio stations they listen too are talk. I happened to listen to Shawn Hanady in the car a week or 2 ago and that was ALL he was talking about. It seems extremly silly coming from a man (my dad) who hasn't got a religious thought in his head. He is just becoming increasingly narrow minded as he ages. 10 years ago I worked retail. I always said "Have a great Holiday." I just thought it sounded better than a generic, not meant, "Merry Christmas." These ultra conservatives need to find something else to harp on...
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12-09-2005, 09:02 PM	#15
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	I saw the sign for the "Eurotree", stopped, grabbed The Christman and back up through the store. I almost bought one, but they were just Xmastree-shapped mini pines. What I really wanted was the sign. Damn, why aren't markets open 24 hours anymore. You can't plan late-night shoplifting sign excursions these days.
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12-11-2005, 01:32 PM	#19
MickeyD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mooby's Posts: 488	I saw a funny little segment on The Daily Show that showed a clip of O'Reilley's show where he names Jon Stewart from "Secular" Central as the leader of the War on Christmas. It kinda cracked me up the way he said secular like it was such bad thing....like Comedy Central should be synomyous with Religion or something.... Anyway...whatever holiday anyone wishes to celebrate...I hope it's great...as far as I know whatever anyone else celebrates doesn't diminish my Christmas at all. Peace on Earth and all that. __________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
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12-11-2005, 07:32 PM	#20
tracilicious avatar transition Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in-between Posts: 2,487	That's funny. I love it when Jon mocks Bill. I'd probably just get mad at Bill mocking Jon. __________________ And now Harry, let us step into the night and pursue that flighty temptress, adventure! - Albus Dumbledore
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