Brokeback Mountain (practically) Sweeps Golden Globes

[Alex]

Well, I'm not particularly familiar with Truman Capote (I've seen still pictures but before the movie I don't think I'd ever seen film of him) so watching Capote didn't feel so much like mimicry since I had no familiarity with what he was mimicing.

Generally I'm of the same feeling as iSm about this and discount to some degree acting in biopics. For me, though, Hoffman's performance in Capote blows through any discounting that I might otherwise give (whereas Phoenix and Witherspoon get the full discount from me for Walk the Line despite enjoying the movie.

And Jake isn't hot, he's just dopey looking. For some reason he has one of those faces I think I'd enjoy punching. And it is a small complaint about the movie but I never bought that he'd aged a day over the course of it.

Too bad the discussion of the movie has died since now that I've seen it I'd really like to bring up the question of whether Ennis is gay. Jack certainly is, but Ennis is more like how I see myself falling for a man (I've no general interest in men romantically but have no doubt that I could fall in love with an individual man). Unlike Jack, Ennis never shows any interest in any other man and had a solid romantic relationship with a woman before meeting Jack.

[Gemini Cricket]

Ennis is gay.

[innerSpaceman]

Ennis is completely gay, trying to be bi and not succeeding. Jake is fully bisexual, and is uber freaking HAWT.


Capote was bloody gay. Joaquin and Reese may get demerits for mimicry, but offset by extra credit for doing their own singing (quite the rarity). On the TV side, is it just coincidence that John Rhys won for mimicing Elvis? Elvis wasn't gay, he just dressed that way.

And speaking of dresses, Rachel Weisz had the mmmmm finest gown, imo.

[Alex]

I haven't read the short story, but is there any indication in either the movie or story that Ennis ever had a romantic or sexual inclination towards men other than Jack?

I don't see why Ennis would be a failed bisexual while Jack is not since there is no indication that Jack was ever attracted to a woman, perhaps even his wife, and it took the woman being the aggressor to get even that.

I do like that for the most part you could change all the genders of the people involved and it is still a compelling story (though you might have to have a different reason for forbidden love). It isn't so much a gay love story as a love story with gay people. It doesn't highlight a uniqueness in homosexuality but a universality in love.

And Gyllenhall isn't hot, unless bovine eyes are attractive. I think I'm a better judge of male hotness than any gay people (and I say this tongue firmly in cheek).

[Gemini Cricket]

Jake is hot.
It's the cow eyes.

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

And speaking of dresses, Rachel Weisz had the mmmmm finest gown, imo.

Along with Rachel, I thought Geena Davis and Scarlett Johanson looked fabulous. Emma Thompson looked beyond fabulous. Reese may have been in vintage Chanel, but I did not like it, don't think it did anything for her.

What I really loved, and did not get home from the movies early enough to see it all, was Issac Mizrahi commentating on the gowns. He was a delightful change of pace from Kathy Griffin and Joan Rivers and her daughter. Don't miss them, keep Issac!

Anyone record the E! red carpet thing? I'd love to see the whole thing.

Donna

[innerSpaceman]

^ agree on all the gown comments of Snowflake ... with the added that Kiera Knightly's classic and simply white choice was elegant, and I loved it (but, then again, I'd drool over her in a burlap sack).

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Requirements of being Gay: Alex, one does not have to go after a myriad of boy partners to qualify as gay. Tecnically speaking, Ennis is bisexual, as he had both a wife and, later, a girlfriend with whom he had sex. What the movie barely hinted at, but the story craftily revealed, is that Ennis's preferred style of sexual intercourse might best be relayed through the classic Newleywed Game interchange:

Bob Eubanks: Wives, what is the strangest place your husband likes to make whoopee?

Wife No. 1: Um, that'd be in the butt, Bob.

Ennis is clearly trying to make it work with girls, but fails miserably. He likes to simulate gay-style sex even with his wife (though, of course, buttsex is not strictly homo), and the script implies that his tryst with Jack on Brokeback Mountain is his first sexual experience.

And though he has indeed fathered two children, the script also implies that sex between he and his wife dried up after that. The script flatout says outright that Jack is having sex quite regularly with his wife ... and though he was not the aggressor, he seemed to enjoy Lureen's advances and his initial tuck and roll in the backseat with her.

So, my analysis remains:
Ennis - 95% gay, 5% bi
Jack - 72% gay, 28% bi

Ennis - kinda hot despite the mumbling
Jack - ultra hot in large part because of the cow eyes

[Scrooge McSam]

Question: Who in their right mind snogs their secret boyfriend outside the front door of the house they happen to share with their wife?

I saw the movie this weekend. It's a beautiful piece and very well done, but I didn't like it as much as I expected to. I'm not down with cheating on spouses. I don't care what your leanings are, a commitment is a commitment. Call me a stick in the mud.

A friend sent me the short story today. Maybe after reading that my opinion will change. We'll see.

[Not Afraid]

My favorite dress of the night - the one I would wear in an instant - was worn by Karen from Will and Grace. It was sort of a shiney Morticia and I lamented the fact that the state of my post-op boobage would not allow me to wear that.....in public ast least. Man, how I crave that dress!

The things I loved were:

Geena's Hair
Johnny and Vanessa - swankiest couple ever!
Gwynth in her pregger glory and the fact they fixed the braw strap mid presentation
Some girl I don't know but recognize who was VERY preggers wearing black with GREAT 40's inspired hair


I hated:

Pamela Anderson - for many reasons. Bad dress, look at me antics, on and on. YUCK!
Natalie Portman's haircut. Great idea dear, but your head's too big.
Who the heck is "Fergie" and she's not the Duchess of Wales, and why was she there?

[lizziebith]

Poor Nat is growing out her hair post-shave. But she needed more lipstick, 'cause she had that raccoon look goin-on.

Geena Davis? Love love love her and her fabulous hair. Tempted, or should I say inspired, to go red again, myself... And does anyone have better comedic timing? Oy, she's a Goddess.

I really liked Drew Barrymore's gown, but sheesh! Foundation, girl: wear. a. bra. I mean, this ain't National Geographic.

Aaaaalll the men looked hawt. It was a drool-fest over here at casa wrightson. He loved Johnny, She loved Geena. Looks like they can stay together in bliss!

Only sad bit was my home-girl Patricia not winning... And she looked gorgeous, too!