News- no, it's propoganda - Page 2

Nephythys · 07-31-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

The first picture in the first link has (portions of) four dead bodies in it.

Then it changed after I posted it-

I apologized- and while I can understand this upsetting people- I find the tone of the response unacceptable.

On edit- ah, that picture. Fair enough- but aside from that I do not feel the posts to me in regards to posting this were even remotely polite.

I am sorry if it upset anyone- but I am done being lashed out at- The STORY is far more upsetting than just the photos- but hey- I guess it's more fun to derail it into a "warning issue" thread- long after I apologized for any upset and failing to label it.

Not Afraid · 07-31-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

There were no pictures of two or more dead bodies- you are misrepresenting and lashing out at me. I fail to see how that is acceptable.

For the record-there is ONE body in each picture- no piles. As sad and as horrid as it is it reflects on the way this is being portrayed in the media and is worthy of discussion IMO- you don't want to look- fine. I APOLOGIZED for not marking it- but to misrepresent and snap at me seems a bit uncalled for,

Sorry if I sound a bit harsh here, but I don't like to open a link in a thread without warning and see dead bodies - I don't CARE what term you or I or anyone else applies to said dead bodies. I'm sorry if you don't find my response acceptable. I would suggest you find a board where people are more accepting of your brand of posting, because obviously we don't meet your needs and are unlikely to change.

Alex · 07-31-2006, 02:46 PM

Someday you two will no longer be able to contain yourself and bring each other to thunderous orgasm and then be best friends for life.

Just for the record I did post on topic.

Nephythys · 07-31-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Someday you two will no longer be able to contain yourself and bring each other to thunderous orgasm and then be best friends for life.

Just for the record I did post on topic.

Yes- you did- thank you.

scaeagles · 07-31-2006, 02:44 PM

I might humbly suggest that this thread now return to issues of news vs. propaganda (not that I am one who never derails - I am oft guilty of running on tangents) and that arguing related to appropriateness, apologies, and actual number of bodies be discontinued, as the point of the thread isn't really about those things.

A thread was started. A moderator posted appropriate warnings. The original poster apologized for not tagging with a warning. Can we be over that now?

Propaganda is part of war. They are inseparable. I might suggest Israel make a campaign to get pictures of devatation and death from Helbollah rockets into the mainstream. Perhaps they are. I haven't looked. However, considering Hezbollah wants a high civilian body count as their goal is to kill any Jew, it might encourage them.

Nephythys · 07-31-2006, 02:48 PM

Gee Leo- I guess that is your answer.

Lisa would rather attack me even after I apologize and make it clear that she does not welcome me here-

It would be nice if someone would like to discuss the link-

Not Afraid · 07-31-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

Lisa would rather attack me even after I apologize and make it clear that she does not welcome me here-

Yup, you're right again. And, you almost had the last word too! Oops.

Alex · 07-31-2006, 03:00 PM

Here's a take on how Israel tries to work its image in the international press. Here's another on the Hezbollah PR effort.

Propoganda in photography is a serious issue because photographs simultaneously increase the emotional content of the information shown while simultaneously masking the fact that a photograph, almost by definition, lacks context. It is a still moment that only implies what happened just before, just after, and just ouside the frame.

People tend to forget that there is still an intermediary between themselves the events in a photograph, to a degree that is extremely difficult to achieve with the written word.

I would remind that not only is propoganda a part of every war but that all (good) photography is essentially propogandistic and distorting. This is not to say that all distortion is acceptable and if the timestamp information in the first link is correct then I would be very interested in hearing the response from Reuters and AFP about how they'll deal with it.

BarTopDancer · 07-31-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

Lisa would rather attack me and make it clear that she does not welcome me here-

Fun with context

Not Afraid · 07-31-2006, 02:48 PM

LOL!

You're getting me back for my earlier "get a room" comment, aren't you?

07-31-2006, 02:46 PM	#3
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Someday you two will no longer be able to contain yourself and bring each other to thunderous orgasm and then be best friends for life. Just for the record I did post on topic.
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07-31-2006, 02:44 PM	#5
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I might humbly suggest that this thread now return to issues of news vs. propaganda (not that I am one who never derails - I am oft guilty of running on tangents) and that arguing related to appropriateness, apologies, and actual number of bodies be discontinued, as the point of the thread isn't really about those things. A thread was started. A moderator posted appropriate warnings. The original poster apologized for not tagging with a warning. Can we be over that now? Propaganda is part of war. They are inseparable. I might suggest Israel make a campaign to get pictures of devatation and death from Helbollah rockets into the mainstream. Perhaps they are. I haven't looked. However, considering Hezbollah wants a high civilian body count as their goal is to kill any Jew, it might encourage them.
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Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	Gee Leo- I guess that is your answer. Lisa would rather attack me even after I apologize and make it clear that she does not welcome me here- It would be nice if someone would like to discuss the link-
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07-31-2006, 03:00 PM	#8
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Here's a take on how Israel tries to work its image in the international press. Here's another on the Hezbollah PR effort. Propoganda in photography is a serious issue because photographs simultaneously increase the emotional content of the information shown while simultaneously masking the fact that a photograph, almost by definition, lacks context. It is a still moment that only implies what happened just before, just after, and just ouside the frame. People tend to forget that there is still an intermediary between themselves the events in a photograph, to a degree that is extremely difficult to achieve with the written word. I would remind that not only is propoganda a part of every war but that all (good) photography is essentially propogandistic and distorting. This is not to say that all distortion is acceptable and if the timestamp information in the first link is correct then I would be very interested in hearing the response from Reuters and AFP about how they'll deal with it.
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07-31-2006, 02:48 PM	#10
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	LOL! You're getting me back for my earlier "get a room" comment, aren't you?
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