Ward Kimball-Escalation Film

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

Wowsa. I've managed to see two Kimball propaganda films in two days.

3 if you count the pacifist message of Ferdiand the Bull.

And of the 3, I'd say this one was the most compelling.

[blueerica]

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

Wowsa. I've managed to see two Kimball propaganda films in two days.

Very interesting piece-- and I guess I'm not too surprised that an animator made the connection between pinocchio nose and pinocchio (cuckoo noise).

See, I saw the Pinocchio connection, yet I also saw his nose as a phallus, "turned on" by supposed patriotism. The end was not only a symbol of war, a cannon of sorts, but also... you know... "release."

Then again, I might just be a perv.

I still don't know what to make of it. My desensitized eyes don't get excited over a little nudity.

And yeah, I saw me some moovies, Podman...

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by blueerica

See, I saw the Pinocchio connection, yet I also saw his nose as a phallus, "turned on" by supposed patriotism. The end was not only a symbol of war, a cannon of sorts, but also... you know... "release."

Then again, I might just be a perv.

Not just you, I definitely read that aspect in as well.

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Not just you, I definitely read that aspect in as well.

So did I.

I will need to rewatch Ferdinand tonight.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Originally Posted by blueerica

See, I saw the Pinocchio connection, yet I also saw his nose as a phallus, "turned on" by supposed patriotism. The end was not only a symbol of war, a cannon of sorts, but also... you know... "release."

Then again, I might just be a perv.

I still don't know what to make of it. My desensitized eyes don't get excited over a little nudity.

And yeah, I saw me some moovies, Podman...

Oh, there is no question that's what the film was saying. I just enjoyed that they used Pinocchio to express that.

[mousepod]

A little trivia - Escalation was the only independent short made by any of the nine old men. Ward must have been very passionate about the subject. According to the OP on youtube, WK's family released this in light of the current events in the Iraq war.

[flippyshark]

Okay, so, this discussion appears to be about three films, Ferdinand, Escalation, and some mysterious other short. Any hints on what that other one is?

I remember reading (a long time ago) about a short called Mickey Mouse in Vietnam. Anyone here seen or know anything about it?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by flippyshark

Okay, so, this discussion appears to be about three films, Ferdinand, Escalation, and some mysterious other short. Any hints on what that other one is?

I remember reading (a long time ago) about a short called Mickey Mouse in Vietnam. Anyone here seen or know anything about it?

Academy Award winner: Der Fuehrer's Face

YouTube link with Leonard Maltin's intro.

Wait, I take that back, doesn't look like Kimball was involved with Der Fuherer's. Perhaps Ferdinand was the second one that LSPE was talking about afterall.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Academy Award winner: Der Fuehrer's Face

YouTube link with Leonard Maltin's intro.

Wait, I take that back, doesn't look like Kimball was involved with Der Fuherer's. Perhaps Ferdinand was the second one that LSPE was talking about afterall.

What about "Reason and Emotion"?

[mousepod]

Originally Posted by DreadPirateRoberts

What about "Reason and Emotion"?

I think they were referring to the Academy Award winning Disney shorts. But as far as Ward being involved with Reason and Emotion, you are correct (see my post above). Reason and Emotion is a pretty neat cartoon - but most people who remember it from TV won't even remember the blatant WWII references, because they were removed in 1962! A fellow podcaster did a neat comparison of the original script to the '62 edit here. It's worth a perusal.