The Muppets - Do you still love them? - Page 2

Not Afraid · 03-03-2007, 08:38 PM

I never really even liked the Muppets. It's one of those things that I just don't "get".

Gemini Cricket · 03-03-2007, 09:36 PM

I liked the Henson-ified Muppets. Their humor used to be targeted towards adults, now it seems like they don't know what to do with Kermit and friends.

I love watching the older films and the Muppet Show.

"Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it IS 'artistic'."

Alex · 03-03-2007, 09:55 PM

I never loved them in the first place. It seems to have been a development stage I skipped and have never understood the appeal either when I was a kid or as an adult.

Probably because I skipped Sesame Street completely as a kid (went straight on to 3-2-1 Contact, Electric Company and CNN Headline News) and therefore didn't have the infant/toddler introduction to them. Doing a crossword puzzle I learned a couple weeks ago that Bert and Ernie live together; I knew of both characters but not this apparently dumbfoundingly obvious detail.

A girlfriend at the time caused me to see A Muppet Christmas Carol in the theater and I think I've seen The Great Muppet Caper at some point. Various episodes of the TV show over the years. A lot of the Muppet Babies cartoon mixed in with other Saturday morning toons.

I did like Fraggle Rock, though.

RStar · 03-03-2007, 11:23 PM

I definatly feel that Jim Henson was the heart of the Muppets, and particularly Kermit. Jim was the creator, and the voice of Kermit, and much the way Walt Disney was the voice of Mickey that launched the Disney Empire, Jim's Kermit launched the Hensen Empire (no Yoda pun intended).

The problem is not just writers, or actors reading a script. The heart that was Jim Henson could carry on only so far after his death (the same may be said about Walt). Most of the shows afterward could be funny and intertaining, but with a hollow, empty heart. I mean when Kermit sang "it's not easy being Green" you felt for the little guy, and he seemed so real and so alive. That magic just hasn't been there post Jim, in my opinion.

And if I go see the Muppit Mobile tomorrow, it will be out of curiosity for the technology, not for the Muppets.

katiesue · 03-04-2007, 08:36 AM

I love the muppets. Loved Sesame Street, loved the Muppet Show, loved the movies (except Muppet Treasure Island - I worked for a company at the time making the game from the movie it was a nightmare).

They do hold up and if done right could come back I think. But the odds of done right are pretty slim. If you look back now every "star" of the day was in the show or had movie cameos. I'm not sure you could get that today.

mousepod · 03-04-2007, 08:42 AM

Did we know this already?

(If you don't want to follow the link - new Muppet Show in development)

katiesue · 03-04-2007, 08:52 AM

Interesting concept. If done right it could definately work.

flippyshark · 03-04-2007, 09:58 AM

That was news to me, very welcome news.

RStar · 03-04-2007, 05:49 PM

I was hoping to see the 10 minute Pilot! Shucks!

Matterhorn Fan · 03-04-2007, 05:58 PM

With the exception of one very, very long and dull song, I really like Muppet Treasure Island. I liked Muppets Tonight.

Muppets has bad attendance in DCA compared to the Studios for two reasons: (1) it's in DCA, and (2) everyone in SoCal's seen it a million times by now. I love MuppetVision, but it's still a movie. Once you've seen it a million times, once a year or so will do.

03-03-2007, 08:38 PM	#11
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	I never really even liked the Muppets. It's one of those things that I just don't "get".
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I liked the Henson-ified Muppets. Their humor used to be targeted towards adults, now it seems like they don't know what to do with Kermit and friends. I love watching the older films and the Muppet Show. "Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it IS 'artistic'."
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03-03-2007, 09:55 PM	#13
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I never loved them in the first place. It seems to have been a development stage I skipped and have never understood the appeal either when I was a kid or as an adult. Probably because I skipped Sesame Street completely as a kid (went straight on to 3-2-1 Contact, Electric Company and CNN Headline News) and therefore didn't have the infant/toddler introduction to them. Doing a crossword puzzle I learned a couple weeks ago that Bert and Ernie live together; I knew of both characters but not this apparently dumbfoundingly obvious detail. A girlfriend at the time caused me to see A Muppet Christmas Carol in the theater and I think I've seen The Great Muppet Caper at some point. Various episodes of the TV show over the years. A lot of the Muppet Babies cartoon mixed in with other Saturday morning toons. I did like Fraggle Rock, though.
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RStar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Me & Manyard hangin out! Posts: 5,433	I definatly feel that Jim Henson was the heart of the Muppets, and particularly Kermit. Jim was the creator, and the voice of Kermit, and much the way Walt Disney was the voice of Mickey that launched the Disney Empire, Jim's Kermit launched the Hensen Empire (no Yoda pun intended). The problem is not just writers, or actors reading a script. The heart that was Jim Henson could carry on only so far after his death (the same may be said about Walt). Most of the shows afterward could be funny and intertaining, but with a hollow, empty heart. I mean when Kermit sang "it's not easy being Green" you felt for the little guy, and he seemed so real and so alive. That magic just hasn't been there post Jim, in my opinion. And if I go see the Muppit Mobile tomorrow, it will be out of curiosity for the technology, not for the Muppets. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup! www.StarTownGifts.com
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katiesue Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,678	I love the muppets. Loved Sesame Street, loved the Muppet Show, loved the movies (except Muppet Treasure Island - I worked for a company at the time making the game from the movie it was a nightmare). They do hold up and if done right could come back I think. But the odds of done right are pretty slim. If you look back now every "star" of the day was in the show or had movie cameos. I'm not sure you could get that today. __________________ My life is so exciting I can hardly stand it.
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mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	Did we know this already? (If you don't want to follow the link - new Muppet Show in development) __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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katiesue Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,678	Interesting concept. If done right it could definately work. __________________ My life is so exciting I can hardly stand it.
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flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	That was news to me, very welcome news.
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RStar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Me & Manyard hangin out! Posts: 5,433	I was hoping to see the 10 minute Pilot! Shucks! __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup! www.StarTownGifts.com
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03-04-2007, 05:58 PM	#20
Matterhorn Fan Double Agent Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Back East Posts: 2,071	With the exception of one very, very long and dull song, I really like Muppet Treasure Island. I liked Muppets Tonight. Muppets has bad attendance in DCA compared to the Studios for two reasons: (1) it's in DCA, and (2) everyone in SoCal's seen it a million times by now. I love MuppetVision, but it's still a movie. Once you've seen it a million times, once a year or so will do.
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