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Old 05-01-2007, 04:25 PM   #11
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I'm a pro smoking non-smoker (and never have).

Light up America!

As a frequent patron of dive motels, the smell doesn't really bother me (I like the smell of cigarettes but not stale cigarette smoke). If Disney wants to change the rules (and the economics do seem to make sense) then more power to them but I doubt it will stop many people from smoking.
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:32 PM   #12
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I can't remember where I saw it, maybe when I stayed at the Raddison last month. They had something like a $500 cleanup fee or some such for smoking in a non-smoking room (all their rooms were supposedly non-smoking).

I'm saying this as an ex-smoker: Prove it.

My word as a customer in a "private" room where no one can see me against the hotels.

Unless there is obvious ashes on the desk, butts or something, just what are they going to do/say? You smoked in our non-smoking room. ... No I didn't.... yes you did... no I didn't. ???

I wonder if they just charged your card anyway if you could fight the bill with your credit card company as a charge back.

And certainly, after they went around and around with you, whether you actually smoked in the room or not, are you ever going to go back after they've accused you of lying?

And what happens if you really didn't smoke in the room and they charge you an extra $500 because they *think* you did?
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:34 PM   #13
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The GrandCal already has this in place. No smoking in their rooms or on the balcony's of their rooms.

Anyone know how they manage that?
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:58 PM   #14
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As blueerica points out, does changing this policy really solve this problem? Sure it might make a small number of people think twice, but if you requested a non-smoking room and smell smoke, then it was someone who is already ignoring a non-smoking policy that was the cause of it. Unless they have some new way to monitor and enforce, I'm skeptical that it will change anything (aside from the, "Oh I'm sorry, all we have left is smoking rooms," annoyance which I suppose is a benefit).

I think it will go a long way towards solving the problem. Most people tend to obey rules and when they find out they can't have a smoking room at WDW, would just make ressies over at the the Hotels near DDT or some other off site place....or just not smoke. Sure, you will have a few people who will break the rule and I suppose I could end up in a room that someone had smoked in anyway....but the odds are better I think. Not to mention that a non-smoking room that one person in something like a 100 smokes in has got to be better than a room designated smoking.
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:10 PM   #15
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As an individual with allergies and asthma, I am very glad to hear this news.
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I abhor the smell of stale smoke in hotel rooms. I'm glad that it is not allowed.
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Old 05-01-2007, 07:22 PM   #17
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Do they have a plan in place to charge those who do smoke in the rooms, even if it's "not permitted"?

Humans are notorious for "not caring" when an addiction is at stake.

they tend to care when their pockey book is at stake. Guests who smoke in a designated non-smoking room (all rooms Resort-wide) will be liable for the cost of cleaning draperies, carpeting, furniture and linens PLUS the daily rack (not a discount) rate per night for the length of time the room cannot be sold.

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I can't stand the smell of smoke indoors. I feel guilty about even lighting up in a casino. I have no problem with walking outside, to a designated area, to have a cig.

The worst is the smell that ends up in your clothes after being in a casino hotel room. ewww.
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Old 05-01-2007, 07:27 PM   #19
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So far, the industry experience (from what I hear; maybe Disney is doing so at DL) is that very few hotels follow through on charging the rates (as said you get into that proof thing and when a credit card payment is stopped it is the whole thing not just the added charge).

I don't care if my rooms smells of smoke. So I'm staying one night and leave the next day. It'll probably smell of smoke just about as much. I didn't complain. The person after me does. Who do they charge?

And if I'm ever a maid in such an establishment I'm going to light up in every poorly tipping room.

If the hotel does charge the $500 I wonder if they actually perform the "deep cleaining" that supposedly warrants the money?
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Old 05-01-2007, 07:27 PM   #20
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Yes, but the question was ... how is it established that the guest smoked? Are there hidden cameras? Because hotel word vs. guest word battles are not very nice.

Where would the hotel get hotel word from anyway? Seems to me the Grand Cal policy encourages people to smoke in the rooms where they can't be seen by staff, and not on the balconies where they can be spied upon.


If smoke detectors is the answer ... what about the Suite my wedding couple is staying in this weekend that has a fireplace? If they snuggle (or more than that) in front of the hearth, are the GrandCal SmokePolice going to burst in on them at an inopportune moment?!?


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