Dutch bishop suggests calling God "Allah" to ease tensions - Page 2

alphabassettgrrl · 08-15-2007, 03:41 PM

I think the Muslims should get over it and recognize that not everybody will follow their religion. You follow it, that's nice, I'm happy for you. But leave me alone. I'll call god whatever I want to, and I allow you the same freedom.

innerSpaceman · 08-15-2007, 04:19 PM

Is "Allah" just the word for "God," or is "Allah" more akin to God's name (i.e., Jehovah on his business cards; Yahweh to his close personal deity buddies)???

Alex · 08-15-2007, 04:22 PM

Both.

Arabic speaking Jews and Christians (and other religions) use "allah" where we'd use god. For Muslims, "allah" is one of the many names of god, each representing an attribute (allah being his divine singularity as I understand it).

innerSpaceman · 08-15-2007, 04:32 PM

But as I understand it, Jews and Christians use "God" as a name-substitute, not as a designation. So Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians using "Allah" where they would otherwise use "God" are, in fact, using it precisely as Muslims use it (i.e., as one of the many names of God).

Alex · 08-15-2007, 04:50 PM

That's my point (not sure if we're disagreeing). When speaking in Arabic, "western" religions already call their deity Allah. In fact, the use of the word "allah" to refer to god long predates the existence of Islam.

Doesn't seem to be easing any tensions anywhere.

Moonliner · 08-16-2007, 10:58 AM

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20279326/?GT1=10252

Interesting article. Interesting bishop.

I suppose that's one option. I believe the term for that is Appeasement.

I have a different plan. I'll use the term God. You can use the term Allah, Buddha or feng shui for all I care and we'll all be happy. If you can't live with that simple plan then bring it and I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

wendybeth · 08-16-2007, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

I suppose that's one option. I believe the term for that is Appeasement.

I have a different plan. I'll use the term God. You can use the term Allah, Buddha or feng shui for all I care and we'll all be happy. If you can't live with that simple plan then bring it and I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

Now I want a Royale with cheese.

scaeagles · 08-17-2007, 05:15 AM

Levon calls his child Jesus. Because he likes the name.

Kevy Baby · 08-17-2007, 09:51 AM

And he sends him to the finest school in town

SacTown Chronic · 08-17-2007, 10:02 AM

Which one is the pederast from The Big Lebowski?

08-15-2007, 03:41 PM	#11
alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	I think the Muslims should get over it and recognize that not everybody will follow their religion. You follow it, that's nice, I'm happy for you. But leave me alone. I'll call god whatever I want to, and I allow you the same freedom. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Is "Allah" just the word for "God," or is "Allah" more akin to God's name (i.e., Jehovah on his business cards; Yahweh to his close personal deity buddies)???
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08-15-2007, 04:22 PM	#13
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Both. Arabic speaking Jews and Christians (and other religions) use "allah" where we'd use god. For Muslims, "allah" is one of the many names of god, each representing an attribute (allah being his divine singularity as I understand it).
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	But as I understand it, Jews and Christians use "God" as a name-substitute, not as a designation. So Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians using "Allah" where they would otherwise use "God" are, in fact, using it precisely as Muslims use it (i.e., as one of the many names of God).
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08-15-2007, 04:50 PM	#15
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	That's my point (not sure if we're disagreeing). When speaking in Arabic, "western" religions already call their deity Allah. In fact, the use of the word "allah" to refer to god long predates the existence of Islam. Doesn't seem to be easing any tensions anywhere.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Levon calls his child Jesus. Because he likes the name.
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