Survivor China - Starts Tonight. - Page 2

Mousey Girl · 09-21-2007, 06:11 AM

Chicken shot himelf in the foot with the whole, "I don't care/know, just tell me what to do and I'll do it."

I like James. He is so ripped and just plain quiet. If you don't open your mouth you don't annoy me.

Little waitress need to have someone tip her a clue on how life works in the real world.

Moonliner · 09-21-2007, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mousey Girl

Chicken shot himself in the foot with the whole, "I don't care/know, just tell me what to do and I'll do it."

Too true. I thought about him for my first out pick but in his pre-interview he said something about you just need to keep quiet at first. So much for that plan. Dolt. You either take charge and do it, or sit back and hold your yap. You DON'T say "I'm better at this than you but I'm not going to help, you do it".

Stan4dSteph · 09-21-2007, 06:55 AM

Yes, it was a good move to get rid of Chicken. Who wants to put up with that kind of passive-aggressive BS for 39 days?

It's one thing to not constantly state your opinion, but when you're directly asked for it -- GIVE IT! Moron.

The NYC waitress gives every New Yorker a bad name. "People in NYC are not like this!" Ugh. What a bitch. I can't see her getting far in the game unless her tribe never loses.

Moonliner · 09-21-2007, 07:02 AM

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but I would be extraordinarily uncomfortable bowing in a Buddhist temple regardless of what I was told it wasn't.

Now that's the one part I just did not get. How does honoring another cultures beliefs/customs in anyway reflect on your beliefs? Do you really think your God is going to black mark you for learning about and experiencing the beliefs of others? That does not sound very christian to me.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-21-2007, 07:06 AM

Courtney - Uppity bitch
Chicken - What Steph said
Jean-Robert - full of himself, kinda douchy, but looks like he knew what he was talking about with Todd (flight attendant)
Todd - That dramatic B.S by Jean-Robert unnerved you? You're in trouble
Peih-Gee - OMG, shut the hell up!
Dave - reminds me too much of Thomas Haden Church's character in Sidways

Ghoulish Delight · 09-21-2007, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

Now that's the one part I just did not get. How does honoring another cultures beliefs/customs in anyway reflect on your beliefs? Do you really think your God is going to black mark you for learning about and experiencing the beliefs of others? That does not sound very christian to me.

I don't blame her. When there are specific admonishments against bowing down before idols, I can understand her hesitation. I don't know that she handled it very well, I imagine she could have just said from the outset, "I'm sorry, it is against my beliefs to bow to a statue like this, I'll watch but I can't participate," but I can definitely see where it crosses a line.

Moonliner · 09-21-2007, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I don't blame her. When there are specific admonishments against bowing down before idols, I can understand her hesitation. I don't know that she handled it very well, I imagine she could have just said from the outset, "I'm sorry, it is against my beliefs to bow to a statue like this, I'll watch but I can't participate," but I can definitely see where it crosses a line.

I believe that refers more to what's in your heart.

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Originally Posted by God

You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me

Unless, in your heart, you were worshipping the Buddhist idols rather than just showing respect for a different culture I think you and your future generations would be safe from eternal wrath.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-21-2007, 08:37 AM

Things differ with translation, but in any translation of the 10 commandments, #2 explicitly calls out "bowing down" and "worshiping" separately. ["Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them" , "You shall not bow down to them or worship them", "You must never worship or bow down to them", " nor bow down to it or worship it."] I personally would not have a problem with it, but I don't find it hard to understand where someone who does believe more strictly in the word of the bible would. Again, I think bailing half way through and crying about it was too much drama, but she certainly should have the right to excuse herself if she feels it's an action that she's not personally comfortable with.

Strangler Lewis · 09-21-2007, 08:51 AM

I think the part posted by God shows why the mere act of bowing down before idols is prohibited regardless of what is in one's heart. God is a jealous, unsophisticated God, and he wants his props. The "Old Testament" is a bit of a patchwork on whether there is just one true God or just one true God for the Hebrews and the other gods can go f*** themselves. Plus, since it is firmly grounded within a context of warring cultures, these outward actions meant something back then just as they would today in tabloid culture. Thus we have Hannah and her Seven Sons refusing to bow down to the king to save themselves even though what was in their heart was clear.

Mousey Girl · 09-21-2007, 07:56 PM

I do have one question...
Why would you think that just because you were told to bring your luggage, that you would actually be allowed to TAKE your luggage? This was the 3rd or 4th season that began with, "Just the clothes on your back," senario. Why are the contestants so flipping surprised? Even Probst seemed to be a bit surprised that the contestants were not better prepared.

09-21-2007, 06:11 AM	#11
Mousey Girl Just Me Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In The Flagon With The Dragon Posts: 2,437	Chicken shot himelf in the foot with the whole, "I don't care/know, just tell me what to do and I'll do it." I like James. He is so ripped and just plain quiet. If you don't open your mouth you don't annoy me. Little waitress need to have someone tip her a clue on how life works in the real world.
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09-21-2007, 06:55 AM	#13
Stan4dSteph Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,156	Yes, it was a good move to get rid of Chicken. Who wants to put up with that kind of passive-aggressive BS for 39 days? It's one thing to not constantly state your opinion, but when you're directly asked for it -- GIVE IT! Moron. The NYC waitress gives every New Yorker a bad name. "People in NYC are not like this!" Ugh. What a bitch. I can't see her getting far in the game unless her tribe never loses.
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09-21-2007, 07:06 AM	#15
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Courtney - Uppity bitch Chicken - What Steph said Jean-Robert - full of himself, kinda douchy, but looks like he knew what he was talking about with Todd (flight attendant) Todd - That dramatic B.S by Jean-Robert unnerved you? You're in trouble Peih-Gee - OMG, shut the hell up! Dave - reminds me too much of Thomas Haden Church's character in Sidways __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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09-21-2007, 08:37 AM	#18
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Things differ with translation, but in any translation of the 10 commandments, #2 explicitly calls out "bowing down" and "worshiping" separately. ["Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them" , "You shall not bow down to them or worship them", "You must never worship or bow down to them", " nor bow down to it or worship it."] I personally would not have a problem with it, but I don't find it hard to understand where someone who does believe more strictly in the word of the bible would. Again, I think bailing half way through and crying about it was too much drama, but she certainly should have the right to excuse herself if she feels it's an action that she's not personally comfortable with. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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09-21-2007, 08:51 AM	#19
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	I think the part posted by God shows why the mere act of bowing down before idols is prohibited regardless of what is in one's heart. God is a jealous, unsophisticated God, and he wants his props. The "Old Testament" is a bit of a patchwork on whether there is just one true God or just one true God for the Hebrews and the other gods can go f*** themselves. Plus, since it is firmly grounded within a context of warring cultures, these outward actions meant something back then just as they would today in tabloid culture. Thus we have Hannah and her Seven Sons refusing to bow down to the king to save themselves even though what was in their heart was clear. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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09-21-2007, 07:56 PM	#20
Mousey Girl Just Me Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In The Flagon With The Dragon Posts: 2,437	I do have one question... Why would you think that just because you were told to bring your luggage, that you would actually be allowed to TAKE your luggage? This was the 3rd or 4th season that began with, "Just the clothes on your back," senario. Why are the contestants so flipping surprised? Even Probst seemed to be a bit surprised that the contestants were not better prepared.
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